What sounds

[flyguy]

What sounds are you guys using for fox and coyote now?
Had a guy tell me to use the yellowhead woodpecker this time of the year what is your thoughts

[lb]

There is no magic sound. They all work. If one isn't working, switch. It's more important to call where the sign is. They will come.

[trappnman]

let me ask you this- say you start with something, no response.......... do you switch to something different at that stand, or the next? If at the original stand- can you switch multiple times until something works, or did your failed attempts cause too much ...........confusion for lakc of a better term?

[lb]

Switch whenever it pleases you. If you think a rabbit distress is ineffective after a couple stands with no response, switch to something else, gray fox pup, domestic kitten, just so lang as it's different.

These animals can't use logic. They take the sound at face value, in most cases.

They don't say; "wait a darn minute, first it was jackrabbit and now it's mule deer fawn, in New England?" "Something's fishy!" They don't think that loud rabbit weighs 500 pounds and they don't wonder if he ever pauses, or gets tired of screaming.

Switch back and forth with different sounds anytime, for any reason. They are incapable of figuring it out. Even if a coyote sees you, he still "thinks" you have a rabbit and are killing it. He will come over and sniff around for scraps after you leave, because he is convinced the sound was a rabbit. The exception is an animal that has been call4ed and shot at before. He won't come in but he has no reason to think the sound isn't real, but now he associates the sound with human. Many animals are called and you never see them, but they frequently visit the exact spot where you were sitting, an hour later.

Use the sounds as you would a confidence decoy in a mallard spread, like a blue heron in the weeds, etc. A squirrel chatter, a blue jay scolding, raven honking, and back to a distress, or a coyote food fight. This works, but is unnecessary most of the time.

The best solution is to be close, undiscovered. They will absolutely check it out, regardless of the sound quality or the number of unrelated sounds. You don't want to make this stuff more difficult than it is.

[trappincoyotes39]

I have used mutliple sounds on the same 20 mintue stand, their short term auditory memory sucks.

I like to try to portray a natural stand that is one with the food source that is in at that time of year or coyote vocals getting them to think something natural is taking place that isn't to thier best interest.

Then again I have killed a few with a groundhog sound and I don't have hog's within hours of me.

At this time- in this area with deep snow, deer are a main stay and so coyotes and fawn distress is a good combo. Mating is also in swing so coyote vocals also good.

Denning is mostly all coyote vocals for me.

AS LB stated don't be afraid to try things and new things or some think off the wall things, as I learn from trying different things. The beauty of an e caller is the ability to move sound and create natural calling sequances, calling and callers have come along way, but unless your on those coyotes no sound or sound pattern is going to yield very good results. Like fishing some days are better than others.

[trappnman]

my grandson was going calling this past weekend, said his friend had a crippled jackrabbit decoy that "really brought them in"........ i was thinking yeah right- but sounds like (no pun intended) truth to that?

[trappincoyotes39]

problem with decoys I have seen are 2 fold one in some cases you need to exspose yourself to set them up so a coyote can see them and the other is if you have cover as tall or taller than the decoy they are of little use in that reguard as well.

[lb]

Decoys are a lot more effective with cats. A coyote will run up and put his nose in the speaker, what would you want from a decoy?

This is a funny story. Years before the current crop of ecallers, we had a 512 with the 25 foot cord and my partner put the speaker inside a rabbit that his mom made for him. We used it a lot, and drenched it with rabbit urine so over time, it was really rank.

We were making a stand, separated and facing different directions, so I regret to say, I didn't see what happened, but I believe completely, having hunted with Pat for over 25 years. There was a natural channel, smooth bottom and gentle banks and he set the "rabbit" right at the top of the berm.

He was watching all over his side when he happened to take a look at the rabbit and noticed just the nose of a coyote sniffing at the belly of the rabbit where the speaker was. So, he stood up with the Valmet, switched to the shotgun barrel and ground sluiced him.

Coyote fell backwards, got back on his feet and snatched the rabbit and ran off before dumbfounded Pat could even get off a shot with the rifle barrel. The cord checked him up slightly and he dropped the rabbit, but he took off down the channel, around the corner and out of sight.

I think he was using BBs? Why, I don't know? True story.