removing conibear from dog

[mostinterestingmanintheworld]

Say I'm doing a deal at the humane society about how to release dogs from traps.

Nobody around here uses conibears except for beaver usually underwater.

But the pictures of the dogs with their heads in conibears are floating around so I know I will be asked how to remove one.

I just use the trap tongs or my hands to compress the springs but I'm stronger than most of the ladies that I will likely be talking to.

Isn't there a rope trick or something that you can use?

J

[lucg]

this video explains it fairly well

www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZK9EqpnQ_E

[Woodswalker]

Boltcutters.

[thebeav2]

I bet that even one of us would have a hard time. The dog would be running around rolling and fighting. I really don't think you would have much time. By time you took off your belt or used the dogs leash It would be to late.
The thing to do would be to straddle the dog grab the body grip with both hands and twist the trap so that the jaws would be on the sides of the dogs neck Instead of across It's throat. Again easier said then done. But this could save you some time if It can be done.

[musher]

Beav. Don't you think the dog would pass out before dying? Obviously, I'm not talking about a dog with a snapped spine.

[trappnman]

JB, check out these illustrations page 53

[thebeav2]

I'm not sure how fast a dog would die. But I have caught some 30 lb coon that never moved the trap off the stabilizer. I think It's going to be a crap shoot. And I think most dogs won't make it.
If It were me I would try and stay away from the subject.

[rk660]

while dog is flopping, dig suitable recovery hole for dog, when dog is settled down and still, release dog gently, place in recovery hole, and fill with dirt, so when dog revives, he will be surrounded by warm dirt and not exposed to harsh elements.

[greyscat]

man...that's why you make the big money rk

[thebeav2]

I think JB should have you at the class

[musher]

Nov 20, 2009 23:22:28 GMT -6 rk660 said:

while dog is flopping, dig suitable recovery hole for dog, when dog is settled down and still, release dog gently, place in recovery hole, and fill with dirt, so when dog revives, he will be surrounded by warm dirt and not exposed to harsh elements.

Or lay dog down by side of road and gently run over it while leaving.

That way there are no kids wondering what happened to Fido and no parents saying, "I wonder if it was the trapper."

It might also save the next dog they own from being hit by a car!

[thorsmightyhammer]

We caught our own dog once on the fisher line after we let her out of the truck while checking some traps. We got her out and she is still running around. It got pretty hectic there for a second.

It was a dumb deal, should never have let her out.

Steve when I downloaded that pdf file page 53 comes up blank.

In essence it shows that the recommended way is to first try and turn the trap 180 so the strike bars are on the sides of the pets neck.

Later I'll scan it and put it up.

I agree beav that it will flat out put some dogs down instantly, more so with the magnum type.

[mostinterestingmanintheworld]

Thanks lucg that was a good video. I have some tongs but I'll get a piece of rope as well. I'm not going to get on the subject at all unless it comes up.
j

[rk660]

yep, they dont pay me for stupid stuff like how deep a pocket should be, they pay me for REAL bright ideas and words of wisdom such as above. Yes, and tire tracks are necessary on certain occasions. Better yet is to find road killed deer, and close dogs mouth on hindquarter, and leave laying on road. "no good damn dog was running deer, good thing it got killed" is what they say.

[swdawg]

Slightly off topic but have any of you ever caught a cow in a 330?

I have a really good buddy that I think the world of.I snare coyotes on his land in the winter but he is too far away to help him with his chronic spring beaver trouble.Just too far away when I'm calving and seeding to help.He has 3 or 4 330's and traps a couple of problem beavers every spring and once they're gone he is good until the next spring.

Anyway,I got up to his place after he had trapped the beavers but he still had the traps out for a couple of days just in case.I figured I'd go with him and check out the spot and offer some advice on how to have better luck.BTW,he shoots as many as he catches in the traps so he really isn't a trapper(no offense intended to him).

I survey the scene and offer some advice when he realizes one of the 330's is gone.There is only a trickle of water now where the trap was set and cows wandering around in the bush and open flat.We drive a little further on the two-track in the bush and come out in the open field.A little further up there is a cow that appears to have a ball of wire on a front foot.Oops!It's not a ball of wire,it's the missing 330!

I couldn't believe it but there it was.All I could say was "I'm sure glad it was you setting the traps and not me.You'd be pretty pissed off if I had trapped your cow wouldn't you?"He sheepishly chuckled "Yes."

Now keep in mind,this is an open field with Charolais cross beef cows that are soon to start calving.You don't just walk up to one and take the trap off.I had a bucket in the back of my truck and so we put some small stones in it to fake them out like we had grain in the bucket.Almost worked.Almost.I had a lariat too.But on foot with a 1400 pound cow,what do you dally up on?

We decided to enlist the help of the team-roping neighbour down the road.Just before dark he roped the cow and we figured she'd choke herself out and we could take the trap off.Funny thing is,she seemed to know we were trying to help her.She didn't struggle and choke out but once causht she just stood there.He kept pressure on the rope with the horse and we carefully tried to remove the 330,trying to avoid being stomped.She never tried to hurt us at all though.Lucky for us.It was not easy getting the trap off.The trap was above the hoof and below the dew claws.The foot was badly swoolen and raw.The trigger was broke off and a jaw bent but holding very secure.After about five minutes of trying to get it off I realized I just had to depress one spring at a time and latch the safety hooks.Then start to set the trap and slip the foot out.It finally worked.

The cow stood there for a minute and then walked off.I'm not one to personify animals,but she appeared to be grateful.It could have been a rodeo from hell,but instead,she let us help her.

To this day,this one particular cow will let the owner get about a step away from touching her.Then she just takes one step away again.If he really tried,he could probably pet her.This is not a dairy cow used to going in a barn.This is a range cow that never gets handled.She is a young cow with a great attitude.I'd love to have a whole herd like her.I guess she just has a good temperament.Maybe she remembers the kindness we showed her.Perhaps a little of both.

BTW,she fully revovered and is doing well.

[trappnman]

steven- I never opened the file- just saw the release instructions were on page 53 of the handbook, so assumed it was the same on line-

[trappnman]

heres the link to the book- www.dnr.state.mn.us/regulations/hunting/index.html

[thebeav2]

Page 53 has been left blank

[trappnman]

odd- in the paper version, its the instructions and illustrations on how to release