Lil Griz and Duffer tips, recommendations ...

[Stef]

Hi guys, like a lot of guys on here know that in the province of Québec, Canada and other provinces... The only legal traps for trapping coon is the conibear type traps (160-220-280).

Its decided, I will test both of these traps in the middle of September for our government with another government employee technician ( Canadian trap testing program ).

I would like to hear from you guys who used both of these traps what's good to do and what isn't good to do with them.
It can be modifications, staking, bait, lure, whatever can be helpful for me using these traps.

We have already some ideas, but before our telephone conference... I might added a few new tips if someone want to share it or them.

We want to reduce tooth damaged the best as we can do.

Thanks and hope these traps will do well during testing... We want them for fur trapping in Canada.

Stef

PS: you can PM me if you don't want to share your opinion publicly

[gcs]

Stef, I havn't used the Duffers, but have used the Griz, and DP traps.
I prefer the Griz, they set quickly, and release easy also. Here, I use either a single 1/2" rebar stake, or a regular Berkshire anchor, mostly the Berkshires as I can shove them into the ground by hand with a T topped driving stake.

I've used the marshmallows, big and small, and salted fish chunks, a dab of ProCoon finishes the set.

I usually twist them in upright, I'll put the springs against a small backing or stick, in sand I've dug down to firmer/damper ground and set in the hole ,helps anchor the V thingee better, sorta like a dirt hole set,

I've also just layed them on the ground, as long as your on the trail, it doesn't seem to matter.

Couple things on the Grizz. You need to drill out the drain hole a little bigger, once they get a little crud in them they won't drain. Also, the trigger pivot is pretty tight, If they get a little rust, or dip on it, it binds up. I work them free and put a drop of mineral oil on it.
I tried the rubber tube on the trigger, it didn't seem to be any better then without.

I've only used them in dry land sets, no foot cutting, and I don't recall any tooth damage, but I won't swear it can't happen. Mostly the coon are balled up sleeping or just sitting with a "I can't believe this is happening look" lol.

I usually dip them in net dip, I didn't try painting them white, though they would stand out better, but like I said, if your on their tracks they'll find it.

[DaveM]

I like the grizz much better.

Thats good griz advice.

The duffers are more of a pain, but will catch coon.
Unless you want to weld a stake on them to stabilize, dig a small hole, and wedge them in. If layed on the ground, they dont work as good. They also require taking them apart to reset.

On both brands, I like Jack Mack, with a drop of proccon.

[Stef]

Thank you for posting and thank you for all the PM's.
I noted many things.

SOME MORE??

We want to shortened the chains by adding shock springs ( Soft catch type )

Shorter chain more tooth damaged?

We will try them on land only I believe... we don't want creek bank mud coon you know.

And we won't drowned any coon.

Thanks

Stef

[walkercoonhunter(Aaron L.)]

on the griz traps i have found it much easier and quicker to set when you weld the "bedding rod" onto them....just push in and go....no digging required that way....i used 1/4 round stock and puh about 6 inches into the ground.....

[trappnman]

on land, with leaves etc- natural color here for me worthless- paint them white to begin with- and AFTER you get catches, they get polished silver so no problem.

[mattduncan]

stef we've been using the griz traps here in ontario scince gary brought them out they were kinda a grey area due to wording in our laws and our local co agreed that as long as he was not getting any complaintets from people about us using them and we followed our 24 hour check law on live holding sets we would have no trouble for using them no need to shorten the chains or add springs but make sure no swivel fouling or sticks to get in swivels the only time we have seen any issue was a couple of swivel fouling issues ,never seen any teeth issues most coon on a early morning check sleeping when i get there our mnr and the ontario fur managers was hoping for apporval to be finished for the fall here in ontario and then it won't be a grey area anymore they are a great tool to have with the amount of people and dogs in southern ontario

[walkercoonhunter(Aaron L.)]

Jul 20, 2009 7:45:26 GMT -6 trappnman said:

on land, with leaves etc- natural color here for me worthless- paint them white to begin with- and AFTER you get catches, they get polished silver so no problem.

if your on location and your lure is working right for you it shouldnt matter what color it is the coons should find it ...correct!!!!!!!!i mean you catch all these coons in regular footholds burried under the ground with nothing but a simple hole in the ground so why should the color matter....

[motrapperjohn]

Gary also has a couple limited edition models, one with a longer twistloc and the other has a circle trigger instead of the straight. same heavy material. Will hold a large marshmello tight.
Also when using a marshmello leave one sticking out the top so you can check from a distance.

[trappnman]

if your on location and your lure is working right for you it shouldnt matter what color it is the coons should find it ...correct!!!!!!!!i mean you catch all these coons in regular footholds burried under the ground with nothing but a simple hole in the ground so why should the color matter....

do whatwever oyu want, its al up to you.
I found that footholds, a hole and a bare circle, produced very well, while the drab colored lil grizs prefromed not at all UNTIL I painted them white.

Talked to many trappers, a couple this past weekend as a matter of fact, and they report the same thing as I found.

So, my advice is not for you- because you obviously have it down pat- but my advice is for the other trappers starting oyut with lil grizs, and my advice can save them some trouble and add coon to their shed-

but again, do it however you want- I'm sure my problem is just my skill level and lack of location finding ability- but hey, I'll learn..............

[greyscat]

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[blackhammer]

I like them right out of the box.The shinier the better.Bait is still the key over visual but any advantage to get more coon helps.Visual attraction must get you a few more coon anyway.Painting white lasts about one catch or so.

[trappnman]

are they shiney now? I tested some of first for Gary, and they were dull metal colored- yes, painting last's once or twice- but then they were polished a bright silver and good enough. Myself and several others mentioned this to Gary, perhaps he now polishes them in response to that?

[coonhangman1]

Where is Blakley? He's taken 900 & some coons in a few weeks with just Grizz's.

[coonhangman1]

The Grizzmaster!

[blackhammer]

Shiney enough to attract coon anyway.I got a box of new ones the other day.They get weathered over the years.The thing about painting them white and I really like the idea even if you half to repaint them ,is they stick out like a sore thumb to thieves.
I don't think they have been polished.I feel the catch circle on dry land gives you a nice attracter also.I been lucky with thieves but the last two I had stolen were painted and at 22 dollars a shoot that concerns me.People don't seem to think twice about a catch circle other than other trappers.

[trappnman]

the ones I had were very dull greyish metal.

don't have to worry about coon thieves here- no one traps land

catch circle sures does and more when fresh- after rain, etc, a handful of dirt broadcast over area really refreshes things -

big thing for me is keeping leaves off circle eveyday

[blackhammer]

I use them on land more than a lot of people.You can set them were you would put a dirthole ,places you'd put a 220 in a trail,near houses.and they really stand out in a trail that is too open to use a 220 properly.

[trappnman]

agreed- I've only used them on land

[anonymous]

anyone have any pull outs?