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Post by oneadam12 on Feb 27, 2009 18:39:44 GMT -6
I know there is a lot of info here to wade through, but while I am wading, I thought I would ask a question and see what I get.
I have used my Johnny Stewart electronic call a number of times to try and entice a coyote or bobcat or fox, whatever, into range. But, the only thing I have managed to call (that I know of) are birds of prey (owls, hawks, etc.). I have several tapes, woodpecker, cottontail, coyote pups, fox and coyote fight. I only desire to hunt in the daylight as I usually hunt alone. I live in southwest Mississippi with mostly wooded land and a couple of open pastures.
Also, how do you sequence your calls. Let the tape play at one volume, vary the volume, stop the tape, etc. Thanks in advance.
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Post by trapperchick on Mar 2, 2009 7:22:21 GMT -6
I have tryed calling a couple of nights and I need the same info. I did manage to call in a coyote about 40 yards the first night and I think a fox the second, but it winded us. How do you get your light, gun, wires, ect. all in order to get a shot off? I need more practice!
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Post by trappnman on Mar 2, 2009 12:02:27 GMT -6
we are just building the Predator Caller archives, but check there-
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Post by yoteler on Mar 2, 2009 19:25:16 GMT -6
oneadam12 I have a Johnny Stewart tape E-Caller aswell. Depending on the time of year, is what makes my decision on the calling. October through November most of my calling is just the Distress sounds. Before I start out I will Give a couple of Howls to see if any answer back, this time of year is good for getting a responce. I start out with a low/mid volume and play it for about 2 mins. then shut it off for about 2 mins. The turn the volume up and play about 5 mins. The tapes I use are the fawn distress, 95% of the time I am using yellowhammer woodpecker tape and have had great success with that tape. I hunt alot of farms and the Distress house cat tape does wonders aswell.
trapperchick calling at night is pretty fun. The nights i am hunting by myself gets kinda challanging. I have a by-pod or I am using my shooting sticks to hold my gun ready. I also have a new E-Caller with a remote so that helps out alot with not as much fumbleing around. The red light I use is in one hand signing, and my gun is in the the shooting position on my shoulder ready to go. When I spot a yote or fox coming to the call I shut the call off. From there on I lip squeck to cox them in. I can lay the light on my lap so its off the ground and still able to see there eyes as when they get close.
Most of the issuse folks have are there locatings. Do coyotes see you walking in? Can they Hear you walking through the there area?, Can they Smell you? These are the 3 most things I watch for. Play the WIND, and wathc how to enter and exit and area. IF a coyote fox or cat are hunger enough they will come to your calling.
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Post by oneadam12 on Mar 2, 2009 21:13:21 GMT -6
I did find something, I don't remember where I read it now, that said fox and bobcat are easy to spook with excessive volumes but coyotes were not as easily spooked. Does this hold true to your experiences? If it does, it may explain my lack of luck so far. I was starting off with lower volumes, but the majority of my calls were almost full volume.
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Post by yoteler on Mar 3, 2009 2:42:28 GMT -6
I blew a coyote out of a brush pile last year when I starting out with my calling, but called a Red in 10 mins later without touching the call volume. But there is alot of IF's on that. I do know that the coyote was close, but did not know it at the time, finding out the hard way when I started, and the fox may have been a long distance away, but that is why I start out with the volume setting on low. The only time my call has been turned up to full is on windy days. I have spook fox just from starting out with a couple of Howls.
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Post by romans117 on Mar 3, 2009 18:17:05 GMT -6
Start soft and build and then go back to soft. If you are calling birds of prey you are doing it right. You can't really know why they are not coming to the call. later in the season effects response, pressure before you showed up etc... Keep the wind in your face, limit movement, wear camo, and don't let anybody tell you you can't do it. Then you will mess up the shot. Put in the time and they will come.
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Post by oneadam12 on Mar 3, 2009 18:26:14 GMT -6
Well, I may have just gotten the second part of that right. Either a bad shot or a miss. One or the other, I couldn't find the fox. It couldn't have been any better. 130-150 yard broadside shot. I'll have to admit I rushed the shot, but if I missed, it was my fault. That was definitely a blast, all I need now is more places to hunt.
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Post by Jason Cox on Mar 3, 2009 18:39:34 GMT -6
its great when you get that first on out in front of you now you are hooked I was the same way. And I always look forward to the next trip
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Post by romans117 on Mar 3, 2009 20:37:17 GMT -6
Aim low. I have a little mantra I say over and over. Aim low, aim low, aim low.
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Post by trapperchick on Mar 4, 2009 13:25:28 GMT -6
Ok, I have been reading your advice and I plan on trying it again tonight. Thank yall for the help! One other ?, How much cover do I need (like behind a bush, against a tree)?
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Post by lb on Mar 4, 2009 16:44:38 GMT -6
In front of the bush is best. Got more pics?
PS romans117: aim dead on, dead on, dead on!
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Post by romans117 on Mar 5, 2009 4:08:34 GMT -6
In front of the bush is best. Got more pics? PS romans117: aim dead on, dead on, dead on! OK that would be the more "accurate". LOLOLOLOLOL |
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Post by springer78 on Mar 5, 2009 22:03:22 GMT -6
If it's during daylight hours try to keep the sun at your back and use brush as a tool to break up your outline. don't want too much in front of you or you limit your shot opportunities.
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Post by springer78 on Mar 5, 2009 22:05:47 GMT -6
Think about how many coyotes are actually in the area. Found out for myself earlier this month that I can get them in (when in Texas where there is a higher density). We've just started learning this year, but found out a lot about the wind and knowing the travel behavior of the K9's
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Post by oneadam12 on Mar 6, 2009 8:47:57 GMT -6
I don't know how dense they are here. I did have one in my yard about a month ago. I live way out in the sticks, so that really doesn't mean much. I occasionally here them running the creek bed on my property (howling and cutting up). If I get a light, I would think that would be a good time to make a night hunt. Yes?
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Post by trappnman on Mar 6, 2009 9:35:03 GMT -6
not a caller- but in other hunting, would rather have the sun in my face- that way, I control shadows-
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