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Post by Gasconade on Feb 25, 2009 22:33:05 GMT -6
Why are us trappers only hearing about large tanneries being down now? The price being paid per square inch for beaver is pathetic enough without this "news" to weigh it down. Kind of like color in coon suddenly being so important again after being a non-issue for almost 20 years. Does anyone else have fond memories of having a nice set of coon absolutely picked to death based on color in the early '80s ?
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Post by minkman99 on Feb 25, 2009 23:23:32 GMT -6
The silver colored coon have almost always been the dominant color.
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Post by bobwendt on Feb 26, 2009 4:41:58 GMT -6
I remember taking a big huge old indiana late season boar into a local fur buyer here back in the 80`s. poor color and late to boot. among the locals here, his nick name was mr. personality. I threw it up on the counter and he dead panned without any expression at all, "looks like a phuckin` school bus", then walked away, no offer or good bye or anything.
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Post by thorsmightyhammer on Feb 26, 2009 10:07:21 GMT -6
Cant be worse?
Didnt you guys sell any fur in the early nineties?
Coon six or eight bucks, beaver 15 16 bucks, rats a can of pop.
Color on coon has slowly becoming more important.
Recently it had been size first quality second and color lastly.
This summer I was told it was coming back around to size first color second and quality lastly.
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Post by Stef on Feb 26, 2009 10:08:18 GMT -6
Yeah yeah but mink were 30+...
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Post by bobwendt on Feb 26, 2009 10:12:04 GMT -6
30 cents for mink, allowing for inflation, about the same porice as today.
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Post by trappnman on Feb 26, 2009 10:15:23 GMT -6
people sold fur before last weeks auction?
you wouldn't think so..........
or how about when Russia collapased? you could not sell a coon anywhere for several months during the prime harvest season- and then well under $10 for averages if you could sell them at all- most could not- those at auctions, had a long, long wait.
this season will weed a lot out of our indusrty- and you are going to see it in every aspect- conventions down in numbers, less supply dealers, for sure less fur buyers and far less trappers next year-
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Post by bobwendt on Feb 26, 2009 10:30:02 GMT -6
8 page thread over on trapperman where to the last man all said they would trap no matter if fur was worthless. of course my guess is the whole liot are either lieing thru their teeth, or never catch enough to fill the trunk of a volkswagon anyway. so yep, they`ll all still trap same as before. curious if anyone can give an accurate membership that is current now for nta and fta. anyone know?
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Post by trappnman on Feb 26, 2009 10:40:31 GMT -6
I'll tell you this Bob .........one thing straight and true-
I CANNOT AFFORD TO TRAP LIKE THIS-
my plan this year was to make it up through hard work and volume-
the volume was not there-
next year, if things are the same, fur trapping will become more of a hobby, ADC will rule-
3 weeks of good gopher work- would have covered 2 months of fur. At a fraction of the expense.
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Post by Zagman on Feb 26, 2009 10:58:01 GMT -6
since you love the coyote trapping, cant you trap gopher and coyotes on the farms? Seems like a win-win. Sure, you cant trap as many coyotes with the gopher ruling, but at least it would break up the monotony of pure gopher work.
Tailgate pic: 38 gophers and one coyote
MZ
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Post by thorsmightyhammer on Feb 26, 2009 11:03:37 GMT -6
I'm still gonna trap bob and it will probably be at a loss.
Heck I think i am gonna throw away the beaver hide and keep the castors only lol.
We havent seen a 30 average on mink in the lower 48 for quite a long time.
You may have in about the mid nineties with the exchange rate.
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Post by makete on Feb 26, 2009 11:03:54 GMT -6
8 page thread over on trapperman where to the last man all said they would trap no matter if fur was worthless. of course my guess is the whole liot are either lieing thru their teeth, or never catch enough to fill the trunk of a volkswagon anyway. so yep, they`ll all still trap same as before. curious if anyone can give an accurate membership that is current now for nta and fta. anyone know? Hey, I put a whole deer in the trunk of a VW bug! Small deer but a whole deer..lol.
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Post by trappnman on Feb 26, 2009 11:10:15 GMT -6
lots lots easier said than done zags- that is, if trying to make numbers on coyotes and trap gophers at same time-
one, it just takes up way to much time-
another, two entirely different truck loads of equipment
third- gopher trapping is so messy- not compatible with fur trapping-
and lastly, the routes don't match up-
but if gophers is primary, then yes, can run 15-20 coyote traps and a few coon- and thats what I'm probably going to do as long as the weather holds and the prices don't -make my money on gophers, trap yotes as a hobby
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Post by bobwendt on Feb 26, 2009 11:27:23 GMT -6
if you`d just buy the f250 supercab disel tman. your truck is just too small.
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Post by trappnman on Feb 26, 2009 11:30:38 GMT -6
yeah.... I need to buy disel fuel..........LOL
done driving big trucks-
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Post by bobwendt on Feb 26, 2009 11:59:14 GMT -6
bigger truck= more tons of gophers /day
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Post by trappnman on Feb 26, 2009 12:11:13 GMT -6
nope- maximum # of traps is the same, no matter how you get them there-
we are going to try to run 150 a day- but doubt we will be able to do it more than few days because of many factors-
cause setting 150 one day, means in effect runing 300 the next, and the next, and the next-
not enough time, not enough energy once things get going good-
but as soon as we can get out- we will be doing what we can.
first 2 bounty meetings of the year are April 27- I'll be very disappointed not to have at least 5-600 in hand by then- more if weather cooperates.
last 3 years set 1st trap april 10th, but could have gotten out piecemeal earier here and there, but not worth it then...but will be this year-
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Post by bobwendt on Feb 26, 2009 12:13:10 GMT -6
bigger truck= bigger tail gait= bigger picture. like joining the army, be all you can be!
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Post by thebeav2 on Feb 26, 2009 13:11:47 GMT -6
So your getting paid per head? Isn't there a more effective way to kill these gophers? That Rodenvator looks like a effective method and fun too.
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Post by trappnman on Feb 26, 2009 13:22:57 GMT -6
I've not seen, and more importantly the famrers have not seen, a method as effective cost per gopher, acre whatever you want to figure- as traps-
a dead gohper is a dead gopher by traps- a maybe dead gopher by other methods, is a maybe dead gopher-
all bounties are paid by head-
all hayfields are paid per head-
all pastures, orchards, etc are paid per hour
all yards are paid by setup fees, minumum fees, and per head to a degree-
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