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Post by bobwendt on Feb 24, 2009 18:12:42 GMT -6
I detailed the poor financial markets and how they affected fur all fall and winter and all I ever got was bashed, deleted and called everything but a low down snake. lol, you alls, toldja so! sowhy now all the "NEGATIVITY'  |
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Post by TurTLe on Feb 24, 2009 18:48:00 GMT -6
I don't know how anyone could of thought fur would of been anywhere near what it was last year. Especially once the world economy started to tank.
No fear though, because this too will pass. We had a good two year run, and now we're back to 1995 prices. No big deal.LOL
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Post by bobwendt on Feb 24, 2009 19:05:53 GMT -6
I`ve trapped more animals and made more money in the down years than ever in high fur years. always. lot of opportunity out there now, and it is very limited in hi price years. ------
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Post by thebeav2 on Feb 24, 2009 20:52:44 GMT -6
Well I for one did Ok at the auction. And have a bunch more fur to send to the May auction. Might as well have them store It. Hey Bob do you remember saying Gas would be at the $5.00 and $6.00 levels, well you can't be right 100% of the time  |
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Post by northof50 on Feb 24, 2009 23:38:24 GMT -6
For those to take note that FHA is selling their fur before their ranch collection of 1,6 mil skins. The last line must spin Gibb because the bank rates have not been the best for Canadian shippers with exchange rates between the two companies. Usually around 3 % difference after the two auctions are through.
With the largest tanner closed down in Winnipeg there is no avenue to tan on this connenent and "be in control of where your companies fur is", much like the problems that happened in the 1990's and there was a lot of shell games going on. eventually a lot of people got burnt dealing in processing hides off shore. So those 200,000 off coloured coons are going to sit for a while.
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Post by trappnman on Feb 25, 2009 8:55:48 GMT -6
I don't know how anyone could of thought fur would of been anywhere near what it was last year. Especially once the world economy started to tank.
exactly- too many scoff at others for beleiving hype, yet often their own comments are much of the same- with the way that coon went last year late, there was no way in the world, for it to stay anywhere near that price- and thats if the economy would have stayed up there.
because if coon would have started high in the country- esp with gas prices dropping- the market would have been flooded with coon and those prices wouldn't have lasted.
so for coon to do what it did this year in the country, wasn't nearly as bad as it could have been. One thing that was obvious is that the markets still continued this season, and still are.
from the first coon bought until this week, the price in the country has been in that $8-14 average range, and thats setting the price of coon. I don't think the auctions set the price, I think they influence it- and if you think Im wrong on this thats fine, we don't have to agree.
I can't see coon getting any lower, nor much higher over the next few years- but there is more private treaty going on than you think, and those that are bigger players, know what they can sink into coon and still make money down the road. Its not their first go around on stuff like this-
fur sold this year local- no one is holding fur if he doesn't want to- and the fact it sold at all during these tuff times, is amazing.
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Post by Gasconade on Feb 25, 2009 9:19:58 GMT -6
Might it not be a good idea for FHA and NAFA both to mix the wild fur lots in with the ranch offering. Might expose some potential buyers to the possiblities wild fur has to offer them.
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Post by thebeav2 on Feb 25, 2009 9:34:20 GMT -6
I don't think selling wild fur or ranch fur first makes any difference at all.
There are buyers that buy wild fur and there are buyers that came to buy ranch fur. And some by both.
These buyers know what there going to do before they fly across the pond.
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Post by trappnman on Feb 25, 2009 9:51:59 GMT -6
I understand your point-
but auction order does matter
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Post by bobwendt on Feb 25, 2009 9:58:10 GMT -6
the big money is ranch mink, just how it is. wild fur is the red haired orphan no one wants pestering them for a dime. wild fur, gunshots, snare marks, coni marks, unprime, over prime, poor handling, rubbed, faded,cuts and gashes, rot, odd colors and sizes, no unifornity as to fur length or clarity and tick bites, bla bla bla. mink= "PERFECT", in every way, all killed on same peak prime day. any color you want, bundles of 10,000, matched sizes, all huge, everything perfect. on a scale of 1 to ten, ranch mink is a 10. wild fur is about a 1/3 of 1. if they ever figure a way to mass produce cats, then cats become coyotes, lol, worthless. the only reason coons and common stuff is worth anything is us knuckleheads wilol kill and skin it for less than the cost of feed to raise it, or they would do that too. chinaman says, "I pay 5 cent-ee for pooosum bundle", and it`s gavel down. SOLD!
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Post by thebeav2 on Feb 25, 2009 10:00:53 GMT -6
Explain that statement please.
If the One hung low has come to buy coon he just waits In the Saloon making small talk with his buddies. When the lots of fur he has Inspected come up for auction he makes his bid.
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Post by Woodswalker on Feb 25, 2009 10:31:06 GMT -6
People are yapping about wild fur didn't sell because NAFA sold ranch fur first.
What's their excuse for wild fur not selling in January when ranch was not even offered? At both auctions?
What will be their excuse when FHA wild fur still does not sell next month in Seattle when it is offered before ranch fur, and in May when NAFA offers wild fur before ranch.
I guess we will have to wait and see, but no doubt it will still be NAFA's fault. LOL
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Post by bobwendt on Feb 25, 2009 10:34:34 GMT -6
key words, "wait and see". fha sale hasn`t happened yet.
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Post by thorsmightyhammer on Feb 25, 2009 11:25:40 GMT -6
FHA sale is going to be worse in my opinion and the only reason I think so is because its later and I dont believe we have seen bottom yet.
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Post by trappnman on Feb 25, 2009 11:38:50 GMT -6
I think it will be pretty much the same- just like this sale was pretty much the same as jan
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Post by thorsmightyhammer on Feb 25, 2009 11:55:59 GMT -6
The february sale is "the" sale generally.
It shouldnt be "in line" with january.
Only bright spot was rats.
Beaver were off and coon were off. They should have been 10 percent higher.
All I can say is we will see and i have been wrong before.
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Post by trappnman on Feb 25, 2009 12:00:59 GMT -6
the fact that now wasn't much worse than Jan, is a bright spot of sorts in my opinion
but you are right- time will tell.
so far, seasons doing what I thought it would, so no surprizes so far-
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Post by Stef on Feb 25, 2009 12:16:37 GMT -6
I know January sale is different than February - March but the truth is that FHA had a better sale in January than NAFA.
I don't see any miracle in the fur trade coming soon but can't be worse.
We'll see
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Post by trappnman on Feb 25, 2009 12:32:29 GMT -6
I don't see any miracle in the fur trade coming soon but can't be worse.
agreed
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Post by Sage Dog on Feb 25, 2009 19:47:57 GMT -6
Shoot the messenger.
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