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Post by dabrock on Aug 2, 2008 14:15:10 GMT -6
I have several road active road culverts that I have not set because of possible thief. I've not used snares that much, but am wondering if they would be effective at culverts. Wouldn't feel as bad about losing a snare. Do any of you use them at road culverts?
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Post by coonhangman1 on Aug 2, 2008 15:35:41 GMT -6
Road Culverts are the best locations in my opinion. If your defintion of culvert and my definition of culvert is the same. Any pipe going under the road near good habitat usually has a trail leading towards it, through it and out the other end.
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Post by thebeav2 on Aug 2, 2008 16:12:49 GMT -6
Brush it In a bit to guide them In. A killer set. Take a piece of 12ga wire fold It over and smash It down flat when you set up at the culvert just hammer It on to the lip and bend It back Into the mouth of the culvert and you have your stablizing wire.
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Post by dabrock on Aug 2, 2008 16:15:03 GMT -6
The culverts are as you discribe. The ones mention in my post are active, they have tracks at both ends. What I am asking is this. Would they be good places to set snares rather than footholds. We can not use a body grip larger than a 110 unless they are in water. The culverts I refer to are dry culverts most of the time. My concern is the possiblity of theift. A snare would not be much of a loss, but a foot trap would.
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Post by dabrock on Aug 2, 2008 16:19:41 GMT -6
Bev, you are saying that snares work at culverts. I have rigged some snares to stakes with stablizing wire attached. I need only to drive the stake and bend the wire to place snare inside culvert. does this sound practical to you?
Dan
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Post by thebeav2 on Aug 2, 2008 17:24:56 GMT -6
Yes they work In culverts. But most of our culverts have a metal apron On the end so you can't drive a stake. What I have done In the past is buy a bunch of beam clamps and screw them directly to the metal edge then I have a stabilizer and means to secure the snare.
On those bigger culverts you still need to brush In the opening. On those big concrete box culverts you can drag In some brush and fence It off and make 3 sets one at each edge and one In the middle. And In this situation you can do It back inside and out of sight. Staking can be a problem In these situations but It can be done.
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Post by foxcatcher1 on Aug 2, 2008 17:30:05 GMT -6
Practical if your culverts dont have a heavy rock bedding. Thats the problem I have. If you can use stakes in that area it will work fine. We have to use other methods around most of our culverts here. I like extention cable or chains.
Don
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Post by thebeav2 on Aug 2, 2008 18:11:55 GMT -6
I guess It makes a diffrence If you want your coon dead or alive In that snare. Weld a plate on the end of your stakes pry up one or two of those rocks and bury that plate and stake. Use It like a dead man.
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Post by bobwendt on Aug 2, 2008 18:26:28 GMT -6
metal punch=little hole in culvert. lol, about all the culverts in a 200 mile radius of here have that little hole in them, just perefect #9 wire size.
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Post by thebeav2 on Aug 2, 2008 19:14:21 GMT -6
Your culverts must be made pretty thin because I had this brain stom that I would take my Hilti gun out and shot a stud In every culvert. Ya right that's all that stud did was roll over and a few just about nailed me.
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Post by northof50 on Aug 2, 2008 19:34:40 GMT -6
FMJ 22mag.40 gr. puts a nice tie down hole through the galv,steel.
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Post by dabrock on Aug 2, 2008 19:39:33 GMT -6
The culverts I have in mind has a clay bottom going in and out, I think I can drive a stake to the side of channel. The larger culverts are more private and use concrete blocks to tie off foot traps. I have a couple large concrete box culverts that I make sod channels near each wall, have cought mink in snare in these, but have no problem with foot traps here. It is the small under road culverts I'm most concern with. These are mostly dry and are for rain runoff, the larger ones have a creek running through and in some cases I can use 220's. you've given me ideas to think about when setting up the culverts. It will be interesting to see what happens.
Thanks ,Dan
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Post by martyb on Aug 3, 2008 9:29:54 GMT -6
I heard somwhere about using a drowning rod at culverts. Stake on the outside and run your drowner into the culvert. when the coon gets in your snare he goes down the drowner into the culvert. He cant go anywhere, the bottom end doesnt have to fastened to any thing. It hides them from traffic.
I never tried it yet but its probably not practical on a commercial basis. Unless you used a summer weekend to distribute drowners. But there's another input.
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Post by Creek on Aug 3, 2008 10:02:16 GMT -6
Put your snares on drags. Use the drag to tie #9 wire to for your snare support. If there is good cover they won`t go far before getting hung up.
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Post by thebeav2 on Aug 3, 2008 10:03:59 GMT -6
I use drowning rods on my foot holds at culverts. It doesn't take any longer to shove the rod In the culvert and stake then It does any other set I would just be concerned about weather the coon would choke down with nothing solid to pull against. May see some damage and live coon with a snare slide a way on a rod. I never tried It.
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Post by thebeav2 on Aug 3, 2008 10:08:29 GMT -6
Ever have a coon pull your drag Into a 12" culvert? If your trapping culverts that's where they all would be. Will a coon In a snare on a drag choke down and die?
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Post by trappnman on Aug 3, 2008 11:20:30 GMT -6
MN- cannot place a conibear larger than 6.5 inches within 3" of a culvert, and no snares within the right of way at all. All snares must be behind the "fenceline"
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Post by Creek on Aug 3, 2008 11:35:17 GMT -6
How many coon do you catch with a snare that actually choke down and die anyway?10%?
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Post by thebeav2 on Aug 3, 2008 14:15:17 GMT -6
I don't know I can't use snares on dry ground In W.I But I know you can catch them In culverts. Hey Steve 3" Is getting pretty nit pickin I know 3'
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Post by trappnman on Aug 3, 2008 14:47:05 GMT -6
3' ..... yes
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