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Post by coyotewhisperer on Jun 8, 2008 16:34:44 GMT -6
I know exactly what you mean Zagger.
That first night i had that female on the job im doing now it was tracked up all around her and the carcass just like your pics in the snow except it was dirt LOL anyway i could not figure out why they didn't get into the other open sets either.
Jeff
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Post by bobwendt on Jun 8, 2008 16:56:48 GMT -6
set 6 feet apart. quit reading books by the experts and listen to bob. but I`ve seen it too. I think sometimes they get one track minded and just are blind to everything except suzie in the trap. what really rags me is a stripped red fox and the trap 5 feet away not messed with. then the sob never come back till after I move on. grrr. well, maybe I nailed them dsown the road already. I know they all sure as heck look guilty to me. I figure if not my fox, then they got asome other guys, or would have, or a lamb or calf or litter of bobcat kittens. they all need to go.
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Post by trappnman on Jun 8, 2008 17:11:04 GMT -6
this is one of those things- for me, I have much better success, with double sets made 25-75 feet from each other. I never seem to connect with doubles on yotes, with sets that close.
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Post by tonymalone on Jun 8, 2008 17:26:30 GMT -6
funny how things just happen different, for different trappers, or in different parts of the country, almost all of my doubles are this close. sets 30 - 40 ft. usually catch on different nites, seldom on the same nite.
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Post by Zagman on Jun 8, 2008 17:48:11 GMT -6
Tony, what are those animals in that picture? LOL
I have caught doubles touching, and doubles so far apart, I reckin they really were not doubles! Typical would be across the farm lane from each other on the close side. No rhyme or reason...the locations and micro-set locations I pick for the traps are what they are......10 feet 20 feet 30 feet, etc.
Lots of people tell me they catch "doubles" and I find out they caught two coyotes at the same farm at different locations. A double to me used to mean I could get them in the same picture.....but I have coyotes from this year that are 20 feet apart and you cannot see both of them.
To me, a double means they come from the same location, not the same farm.
Hey, I am stickler!
Zagman
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Post by tonymalone on Jun 8, 2008 18:34:05 GMT -6
they supposed to be yotes.
like i say, i seem to catch most of my doubles, just far enough apart they can't tangle up, w/ each other.
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Post by bobwendt on Jun 8, 2008 18:38:28 GMT -6
me too tony.
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Post by tonymalone on Jun 8, 2008 18:46:49 GMT -6
got started putting sets in like that, cause a couple of top notch coyote trappers told me, "boy them coyotes will show ya what to do"
coyote turds rite outside of catch circle said, "git me, rite here", they were rite.
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Post by tonymalone on Jun 8, 2008 18:58:15 GMT -6
the coyote in the lower right, look to the right of his ears, them turds are saying, ha ha coulda had a triple, if youd put out 3 traps
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Post by trappnman on Jun 9, 2008 7:18:12 GMT -6
Hey Zags- I had one location this year- 2 traps 30 feet apart , both on same side of lane...about 100 yards down, had 2 traps 20 feet from each other across a small weedline.
3 coyotes and a badger.
Me? I called it................ oh yeah!
(a double and a mixed double)
I don't know- I used to set traps close, and still do (to me 20 feet is close), but when I get doubles- and I don't get that many...maybe 7-8 a year in coyote doubles, 1 year 10- but I guess thats 16-18% of my coyotes.
whats the % of doubles on a "normal" line for some of you?
I'd bet my average distance between 2 sets at 1 location...would be 40-50 feet. I used to set up 2 close- within 20 feet and then a stinger- and my doubles were always in the split sets.
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Post by 17HMR on Jun 9, 2008 10:34:24 GMT -6
I would say avg distance between sets for me would be about 30 feet normaly, but can be closer or farther, I let the landscape tell me. Last year I had 6 doubles, 2 triples, and 2 mixed triples, 1 with a skunk and one with the ranchers dog. Two years ago I had 6 coyotes in close to 100 yards out of ten traps in that spot. I would like to repeat that again, that spot on the 1st time through produced 14 coyotes and 1 badger, the 2nd time through it was good for 3 more coyotes and 1 skunk. I wish I had 20 spots just like it.
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Post by foxcatcher1 on Jun 11, 2008 2:30:06 GMT -6
To tell the truth I don't catch near the doubles I should. I catch maybe 3-4 a year doing between 50 and 100 coyotes a year. Most of my doubles come early in the season. First two weeks in Nov. is when most of my doubles are caught. I set really really close too. I have pulled a Jimmy Spencer (Mink Movie) a time or two with one coyote in two traps. I often wonder if the tracks around a caught coyote are not the tracks of the caught coyote pacing back and forth before commiting to the set. Could be a reason for the not catches at the other sets. The obvious bugger to this is when the tracks lead off never to return. In some spots though I can't hardly tell if they are coming or going due to the area being tracked up so much. The one that really get me are the ones that Bob is talking about, a nice red (dead) in one trap and coyote tracks all around with the other sets untouched. One thing that is common for me is to catch several coyotes per property. 15-20 coyotes per is about normal on a good year with a few stops that sputter out a hat trick or less.
Don
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Post by trappnman on Jun 11, 2008 7:12:22 GMT -6
15-20 coyotes per is about normal on a good year with a few stops that sputter out a hat trick or less.
between 50 and 100 coyotes a year.
so if I understand what you wrote, you are only setting up a few properties?
Most I've every taken from 1 location, is 10. This year, had 1 location with 9.
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Post by foxcatcher1 on Jun 11, 2008 22:38:16 GMT -6
Right maybe 6-8 large farms for coyotes. Other areas for water fur. Some years I have catches spread out alittle more even but not much. I just have so much land to trap, over a large area, that I have to pick the best spots and rotate out when one goes dead wich I tend to slack on sometimes. I could probably catch more coyotes if I moved more often. But, by the time coon, beaver, muskrat, mink sets are all in I loose the ambition to rotate my coyote line.
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Post by foxcatcher1 on Jun 11, 2008 22:48:50 GMT -6
I'm constantly making new sets within a 50 yard area of target location. Some pics I have show multiple catch cirles in the same spot. So much so that it looks like a mine field. I'll look for a few pics to illistrate an example. I might be off a few coyotes per spot but not much. Maybe 16-18 coyotes per location in some areas per season.
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Post by trappnman on Jun 12, 2008 7:59:03 GMT -6
this is over what time period?
on one farm,. which is actually composed of 4-5 smaller farms under one owner, I catch between 10-15, 16 once but am there 6 weeks.
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Post by foxcatcher1 on Jun 12, 2008 21:37:42 GMT -6
Most spots over the whole season. Some are pulled after a month to make time for water trapping.
Don
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