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Post by charlesks on Feb 14, 2008 16:03:52 GMT -6
how many of you INTEND to cacth the coyote on his LAST step to the set, versus setting to make the cacth as he works the hole?
i set to make the catch when he works the hole.
on a walkthrough set, i think (guessing, have NO way of KNOWING) i get 1/2 of them on the approach, 1/2 as he works it.
your thoughts?
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Post by trappnman on Feb 14, 2008 17:04:40 GMT -6
good post, I'll get back to you and will be interested in hearing other comments...
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Post by walkercoonhunter(Aaron L.) on Feb 14, 2008 17:14:23 GMT -6
well since i use step downs i guess it would be on the approach,getting ready to work that hole.....
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Post by romans117 on Feb 14, 2008 17:17:43 GMT -6
Hole on DH. Approach on scent posts.
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Post by DaveM on Feb 14, 2008 19:01:10 GMT -6
100% of my catches are when he hits the pan.
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Post by rivertrapper316 on Feb 15, 2008 0:47:26 GMT -6
I fully intend on his first step to be his last.
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Post by trappnman on Feb 15, 2008 10:38:54 GMT -6
never really worry about it. I catch them by any foot, and pay no attention to if left footed or right footed or inbetween. Backfoot catches are common in both stepdowns and walkthroughs- coyotes like anything else, esp a stepdown where just the set itself is the directional backing, and they often work stepdowns from the back and side, before committing to stepdown into the set. So it could as well be a back foot as front.
But since I set fairly tight to the attractor, I'd guess that I am catching them at the last step before the attractor, rather than on the approach to it.
I do not believe, that every coyote works every set hard, and also believe that he might bypass a set a time or two before working it, depending on the location and yes, type of set.
So My goal, is to keep him there, as long as possible until he does fully committ.
everyone needs to make some dummy sets without traps, or better yet, check an entire frozen in line after a light snow. How a coyoe works a set without a trap firing, is enlightening.
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Post by garman on Feb 15, 2008 11:20:06 GMT -6
I would like to say that I like to trap them on the approach, first step is last blah blah blah, but I believe no matter how hard you try to trap on approach or working the set some accept approach better and some accept working th eset better. I always set a location with two sets step down dirthole and urine post dirthole would cover the approach urine post will cover the working less aggressive. If that does not work then I will catch them later at a snare or not, plenty of yotes I will not waste time worrying about it, nor do I want to be a ADC trapper at this point..
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Post by Stef on Feb 15, 2008 12:00:39 GMT -6
Most of my k-9s are caught at the holes or in front of an object ( flat or scent post) But the more and more I trap coyotes... I like to take them in some places on the approach. Here an example of what' I'm talking about. When I see an old log half buried and there's room around it... I like to punch a hole under the log and make a trap-fresh dirt pattern without trap if its staked If I use a grapple at that location... I would put a trap in front of the hole. Anyway, I like to set my trap on the edge. I caught quite a few LARGE dogs with sets like that. Bait, lure whatever goes in the hole and pee above the hole, nothing close to the trap at the edge. Here's a drawing of the set Now, I want to share a set that I modified from Delmer Kramer book.. His deep trench set. I use this set only in sand pit locations for easy digging. Its a loud set.. I mean.. loud lure, loud bait etc... and lot of eye appeal. I use 3 traps on drags... never caught a triple on it yet...lol But I will one day.. 1 trap is set in the trench. waxed sand on top (water drainage) notice angle. And 2 traps are at both end of the mounds of dirt. Here's an example Hope you could understand my drawings? Stef
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Post by charlesks on Feb 15, 2008 14:44:13 GMT -6
interesting stuff stef.
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Post by trappnman on Feb 15, 2008 14:55:25 GMT -6
the only advantage I could see to using apporach sets, is multiple traps.
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Post by ColdSteel on Feb 15, 2008 15:35:33 GMT -6
Wow if that cat has nine lives he used on of them up ;D.I have never seen that many cat tracks in a dirt pattern for me its usually just one track 2 at best.
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Post by TurTLe on Feb 15, 2008 16:42:42 GMT -6
Although you missed him Andy, that cat sure taught some lessons. First, he seemed to be more attracted to someting on the log on the left more then what you had centered. Look at the direction of his prints. Another thing I see from the picture, is that if the trap would of been bedded tight to the hole/V whatever you have there, you would of nabbed him. However, sometimes they just don't do what you want them to do no matter what. That's what makes trapping so fun in the first place.
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Post by scott kimball on Feb 15, 2008 21:29:14 GMT -6
andy, if anything is definite you bedded that trap well.
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Post by youngandtalented on Feb 15, 2008 21:53:48 GMT -6
haha man that sucks !!!!
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Post by charlesks on Feb 16, 2008 8:02:06 GMT -6
i still think Tony had a cat paw in his pocket and did that when andy wasnt looking...lol
the story BEHIND the next days check is even BETTER,,,LMAO
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