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Post by thebeav2 on Dec 14, 2007 9:10:50 GMT -6
I just received my new snares( cable restraints) Now what should I do to prepare them for the line. With the amount of snow we have I'm sure It's here for the rest of our season(Jan 1st till Feb 15th. All tips are appreciated.
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mean1
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Post by mean1 on Dec 14, 2007 9:32:45 GMT -6
Boil them in baking soda and paint white if snows on for awhile, let them air out a few days in the fence then set them. goodluck
mean1
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Post by garman on Dec 14, 2007 9:42:40 GMT -6
baking sday is good enough, or logwood dye (Crystals) white paint can cause refusal must be too light or something. Logwood crystals work good darken it up like a stem of weed.
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Post by thebeav2 on Dec 14, 2007 10:31:49 GMT -6
will the dish washer work?
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Post by irnhdmike on Dec 14, 2007 10:36:45 GMT -6
Never dared try the dishwasher. Fraid of the repercussin's. Bet it woud work tho. Don't be stingy with the baking soda. Give it good boiling longer is better. No need to whiten them. There is no need to whiten them.
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Post by trappnman on Dec 14, 2007 10:49:56 GMT -6
Rally cautions against long term storage of snares that are boiled. Boiling removes all the oil in the snare, and can cause it to rust and weaken long term.
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Post by JWarren on Dec 14, 2007 10:53:26 GMT -6
will the dish washer work? It will work good, you might want to boil in baking soda to get them gray faster, then again a new snare blends great in snow alot of times and they'll turn gray on their own
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Post by frenchman on Dec 14, 2007 10:54:11 GMT -6
Boil 15 min in baking soda, and get out and set them.
You can catch foxes the first night no probs this way.
Most people worry way too much about the odor - being on location is more important. But baking soda, 15 min in it is enough - will do.
Do not paint snares white. I've tried it, it works, but for the hassle it ain't worth it even in snow.
Plus, they are no good for snowfreee zones (under evergreens, etc.)
boil let them air out for the night, set the next day.
have fun!
ps. Long term? Speed dip is the way to go, but not black, mix brown and white to get paler shade.
and you look dumb if snow melts.
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Post by trappnman on Dec 14, 2007 10:59:34 GMT -6
Wiley E told me he often paints his snare tan/white/ brown with spray paint- a mottled camo pattern. I tried it and like it- sure makes snares invisible in almost any background.
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Post by Bristleback on Dec 14, 2007 12:07:45 GMT -6
I avoid boiling, especially for long term........short term, I'm sure you're fine. Try painting just the bottom of the loop for snow conditions Avoid WHITE WHITE........
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Post by musher on Dec 14, 2007 12:16:17 GMT -6
Too long in baking soda will weaken them.
If you want to get fancy, boil them in plain water, let settle, and pour off the oily top. Then throw in a few fir boughs or alder branches, whatever, and boil them again for as long as you want.
Let them air dry and set them.
I hope that your wood stove is running. It makes it really simple.
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Post by SteveCraig on Dec 14, 2007 12:21:38 GMT -6
Beav, Boil them in soda, 3 tablespoons per dozen snares, and bring to boil, then reduce heat to a simmer and simmer for 15 minutes and no more than 20. Longer and you will ruin them. These you can set the next day. If you want to paint them: Put in dishwasher and cycle it through one time. Uncoil, Hang on a piece of plywood, and spray paint with Kylon in Flat tan-green-brown camo pattern, turn them over and do again. They will have to air out if using paint. Hang them outside in a tree or bush will speed up the airing.
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Post by mean1 on Dec 14, 2007 13:05:19 GMT -6
I only snare about 30-40 coyotes a year so maybe i don't see it as much but i never had refusal because of paint if you air them out, even white, only problem with white is you get a quick melt and you got "BLING BLING" hanging out there:)
mean1
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Dec 14, 2007 15:07:34 GMT -6
Beav with cable retraints and the laws in which you must abide, you'll want to break that outline up as best as you can and don't forget to do the same with your support which ever way you choose to support them on the trails! Good luck and check them early!
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Post by thebeav2 on Dec 14, 2007 16:03:08 GMT -6
Yep I'm just a bit worried about chew outs.
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Dec 14, 2007 16:14:45 GMT -6
I'll tell you your going to find plenty of bloody mouthed coyotes. Did you get 7x7 or 1x19 cable? As the 1x19 is far better on chewing than 7x7. If legal I would use 1x19. In snaring I use all 1x19 for coyotes as to me it gives a more rounded loop, which I like the sides get more out of the line of site and I can get the lock up easier than the sides with our laws, and don't like the tear dropping and narrow look of 7x7. Good luck on collaring those coyotes!
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Post by thebeav2 on Dec 14, 2007 18:01:14 GMT -6
I got 7x7 and they were pre loaded and realy look good with a perfect round loop. Rally did a fine job.
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Dec 14, 2007 19:22:43 GMT -6
That IMHO is what you want is a really round loop, but the 1x19 is far more chew resistant. If legal have rally make you up a dozen or 2 in 1x19 preloaded and see what you like better and how the coyotes chew on the cable and the end results. I'm betting over time you'll like the 1x19 better if legal in your area.
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Post by thebeav2 on Dec 15, 2007 9:29:46 GMT -6
Does tne 7x7 close faster then the 1x19 ? We can use 1x19
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Post by musher on Dec 15, 2007 10:11:43 GMT -6
I prefer 1x19.
With regards to speed there are variables. Lock type? Loaded?
Sometimes 7x7 can just "drop" closed while 1x19 must be pulled. Other times a loaded 1x19 will spring closed while a 7x7 isn't as fast.
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