yote snareing basics

[tonymalone]

going to try snareing yotes for first time, (checked archives 1rst, but still need basics) what size loop and how high should bottom of loop be off ground? and any tips thanks

[garman]

10" loop 12" off the ground, if regulations allow you can go a bit bigger on the loop and still get a neck hit.

[bobwendt]

tony, bag a loop as you can get, as bottom of snare is what determined neck or hip. as long as lock is fast. very firm solid tiff support system is critical. heavt weed fieldsare best, but in time you`ll be amazed the ones you can snare in the total open with nothing but you, the good lord, thin air, and a snare. 9" stops and total open for `live stuff. next best deal, actually best of all is con steve craig into trapping with you for a week or two and act real lazy so he sets evereything and then just watch what he does.

[k9]

Good advice so far. Also are you mainly trail snaring or fence snaring? Open trails if in a state that allows big loops make them big. If a fence duck under smaller loops are more acceptable, as the coyote has already mentally committed to being crowded.

[trappnman]

unfortunately- most eastern states have regs that are so anti coyote snaring, that its a pisspoor tool at best.

Here- maximum 10 inch loop- maximum height of top of loop- 16".

So you have 2 options- 8 inch loop, with bottom 8" off ground- or 10" loop. bottom 6 inches off ground.

Neither is coyote friendly

[bobwendt]

I dunno. sounds pretty coytote friendly, being most knock them over or jump over with those regs. k9, I think he is all live trapping, so fences would be deee-zasterino

[SteveCraig]

Tony,
Make the loop fit the situation.

Basic starting point is 12-14" loop, 12" off the WALKING surface.

You will find that on up and down grades the loop needs to be lower.

In a bare pasture, cow path, make a 16 in. loop with bottom about 10 -12 inches off the surface.

All you need is a goldenrod to camo the support wire.

A member of this board did not believe me when I told about this. He went out and set 2 snares this way and came back the next morning to 2 coyotes all halterbroke(he had to use a "relaxing" lock) He is now a believer.

Just remember to let the location determine your loops. I have snared alot of big Indiana coyote in 10" loops.

Like Bob said, place your stops for live snaring at 9". For bigger coyotes, I like 9 1/2 to 10 inches. These dementions are VERY critical. I had a couple of my eastern snares setup at 9 1/2" and set them in Kansas and had 2 coyotes POP out on me. Bob was laughing at me setting on my bed readjusting and remeasuring to make sure they were all back to 9"! But I never lost another coyote either!

Make sure you got Breakaways on them, as this is the best deal to come down the pike for snaring, since snares were invented. Also, I prefer 1/8 cable for live snares. This way you can use a shorter snare and still have him there when you get there. Longer snare in brush will provide you with a dead coyote from time to time, even with the stop. I think Bob likes 7footers and I use 8footers. When i made my video, I set a bear snare in the wide open to prove that coyotes do not see the cable as long as the loop is big. It was 5/32 cable with a Thompson lock and a stop at 9 1/2". 16inch loop, 12inches off the surface. He made for some good footage.

[trappnman]

Basic starting point is 12-14" loop, 12" off the WALKING surface.


exactly.

know what those snareman in the north tell me? who carries a tape measure...?

[jwr64]

trappnman said:

Basic starting point is 12-14" loop, 12" off the WALKING surface.


exactly.

know what those snareman in the north tell me? who carries a tape measure...?

Some of us dont need a tape to measure 12". ;D

[tonymalone]

thanks yall,

[garman]

Bob stated it right though if you have the regs as big a loop as possible, fast lock. and good luck check the regs though and follow.

[musher]

I don't snare coyotes but I do snare other stuff. Height depends on other things, too. Is the animal hunting or travelling? Is it going up or down a hill. Is there brush to force it's head down or up?

That's why I don't carry a tape measure! I have known a few guys that had marks on their axe for proper heights. That kind of guy spends too much time at the snare sight.

[tonymalone]

i'm figureing on wrp, and crp grass patches w/ a beaver staked down and tire tracks leading to it, or atleast man made trails going in. w/out something to hang snare support to what are some ways to do this?

[randysironworks]

I take a re-bar and make a T out of it whatever length your ground calls for then wrap #9 wire around the T for your support.Stake the cable with the T also and dont pound it in the ground to far so the animal has freedom to run circles without screwing the stake out of the ground.If I dont want them to spin I just put another stake 6" away then they wrap around those two.Simple and fast for me.

[bobwendt]

he wants them alive guys, so pound everything underground or he`ll tanglre and croak. and anything lress thasn 1/8th and you can expect 50% to chew out and away to a terrible death. tony, #9 wire with a little "U" on the top and crimp your cable in tight where you want it with linesman pliars. if it`s floppy thern run a small whip stick in with the wire for added support as the key is that cable must bre solid with no give except the pull down

[tonymalone]

Bobs rite, i want em alive, got some real good tips here, may be a few days before i get em out. have any of yall tried fish market scraps for bait station? thanks yall.

[bobwendt]

few more tips, forget everything you ever learned about foot trapping, leaving scent etc. and make sure have a set of the $28 cable cutters to cut them loose once you get the hog snare over their noggin. you can`t get the snare loose and back over their head.

[tonymalone]

got em, done considerable beaver snareing, but know this is going to be a different ballgame. still plan to knock em around w/ footholds though, by the way Bob, i put them #2 music wire springs on the softies that i tampered w/ springs on here awhile back, and was haveing so many snapped traps, no snapped traps now, catching good, and feet are really doing good.

[k9]

Sorry Tony, didn't know you wanted them live! Listen to Bob not me, cause if ya listen to me they're gonna need CPR