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Post by Bigfoot on Sept 22, 2007 19:50:11 GMT -6
what kind of media do you use when you drum your coon ? what stage in the process do you like to drum them ?The only expierence I have with drumming is a friend of mine uses sawdust and drumms primarily to loosen up half frozen hides before fleshing .
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Post by coyotewhisperer on Sept 22, 2007 20:04:18 GMT -6
I was all set to build a drummer till i watched Greg schroeders NAFA fur handling video.
He stated Nafa didn't want you to drum your coon.
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Post by furman on Sept 23, 2007 16:53:44 GMT -6
Use corn cob grit for a media in drumming I would think that saw dust would make more a mess than anything.
I have never seen NAFA video on coon put up but I took some coon up to Greg Schroeder and made a complement on the drumming job on the coon I had. Maybe too many guys do it halve ass and rather guys not try it.
Most of the big county buyers drum there coon.
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Post by robertw on Sept 23, 2007 17:38:06 GMT -6
Where is the best place to purchase corn cob grit?
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Post by mattduncan on Sept 23, 2007 19:17:34 GMT -6
robert i get mine from a local mink ranch
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Post by furman on Sept 23, 2007 19:36:37 GMT -6
If you Google corncob grit your find places that sell it. Here in Iowa you can get it at Green Products in Conrad, Iowa 1-641-366-2001
It helps if you have a regular fur drum I don’t know about them drums that you make out of dryers
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Post by walkercoonhunter(Aaron L.) on Sept 24, 2007 5:32:34 GMT -6
from what i have been told about the dryers you have to change the pully on the drum to slow it down....a regular dryer set up to do clothes tumbles too fast and will damage hides....the fur buyer that told me this said if you dont you will have lots of missing tails....and make sure the heating element is taken out or unhooked...if you tumble green i dont think it would matter much except for breaking the guard hair off with the fast tumbling....
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Post by Rich P. on Sept 24, 2007 10:02:47 GMT -6
Greg Schroeder told me if you want to drum your coon to do it before you flesh them because if you do it afterwards it will bring out any snare or conibear marks on the hide.
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Post by trappnman on Sept 24, 2007 14:19:50 GMT -6
don't know about drumming- but for sure if selling green, do more than skin your coon. Wash and dry, fluff before freezing- it goes without saying skin them fresh- I do bristleback's trick of letting fur dry brushed backwards- then freze fold once- when you take them out- a couple of good shakes by the nose, and that fur fluffs and is soft, clrean and bright.
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Post by garman on Sept 24, 2007 16:43:58 GMT -6
how about some pictures of your drumming equip?
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Post by JP on Sept 24, 2007 16:53:30 GMT -6
Is there a purpose in drumming if you do like I do and just wash brush, and dry? What else are you trying to accomplish? JP
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Post by furman on Sept 24, 2007 17:10:05 GMT -6
I think that you can get the same results buy washing and a good brush job. The drumming thing there is no labor in it. I have two sides to my drum and I put 3 coon per side then set the drum timer for 20 min then after a 100 coon the grit need to be changed. Also wet dirty coon come out looking great
When I am good and warm up on the fleshing I would flesh 6 coon while 6 were drumming and if the timer went off before I got done the ones done I was working on I knew I had to pick up the pace.
I would post pictures but we have dial up and I'm not that patient.
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Post by walkercoonhunter(Aaron L.) on Sept 24, 2007 17:41:26 GMT -6
drumming gets the fur cleaner than just washing and combing....even takes out some of the yellow cast(dirt,urine) on most coons....makes then nice and fluffy also...gets rid of the loose under hair also......
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Post by td on Sept 24, 2007 18:08:49 GMT -6
I don't drum them. I take care to flesh a little carefully, sometimes using sawdust if it's hot and the fat is running like water. Then after stretched/dried, wipe the skin, window and tail w/paper towel. I don't think I've ever been docked for leaving a little grease in them. It makes them shiny and look/feel heavy. The graders I've seen look at the skin side for defects then feel and look in the window for section and color. Never once have they complained about them being too greasy and needing cleaned up. Have never watched nafa, but plenty of top lots.
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Post by trappinstud1 on Sept 25, 2007 17:14:16 GMT -6
i herd if u throw them in the dryer with downy sheets it really fluffs them up. is this true?
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Post by furman on Sept 25, 2007 17:20:56 GMT -6
I would think it would be a waste of money on the dryer sheet thing.
Just wash your coon that the water where you trapped him dry the coon out well and give him a good brush job.
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Post by Clefus on Sept 25, 2007 18:41:30 GMT -6
I actually use very fine sawdust after skinning... coon are hosed well before skinning if they are a muddy mess....fluffy ones get skinned....and if there is blood after skinning it gets washed off before tumbling....
Give a good shake and if they are dry...it all comes out...
they are then fleshed or froze...
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Post by garman on Sept 25, 2007 19:02:41 GMT -6
please explain the sawdust thing more if that is ok
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Post by Clefus on Sept 26, 2007 17:19:36 GMT -6
nothing really to it.. tumbler or converted dryer...works both ways.. get fine hardwood sawdust...buddy and I found it penetrates the fur better than "chips" which ride on top and dont pull moisture out...
10 to 15 min ... wet coon to fluffy one... do fox and yotes also.....
keep xtra sawdust on hand...change if needed.. on dryers...due to the fine sawdust that works around the seal....I lay it on its side to keep the motor free from dust... also a gas dryer is easier to convert..... I have the stuff to build a regular tumbler but no xtra time....
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