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Post by Bob Jameson on Nov 13, 2008 20:48:15 GMT -6
This is the second damaged coyote in less then 2 weeks. I get a few every year. I understand others rarely see this. The first one was damaged and harassed by another or other coyotes. This one was self inflicted. No other bites or penetration trauma found when skinning. Just alot of fur tufts found around the down wind side of the set. Obviously pulled out while lying down getting worked up.    Was a decent tanning coyote now it is quite damaged.  I seem to get one of these every 3-4 years.I wonder how this gal was planning on keeping the cold winter wind off her face this winter.Guess I did her a favor. Bet the private parts would have gotten a bit chilled also. |
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Post by northof50 on Nov 13, 2008 22:14:41 GMT -6
I've seen this happen when varmite shooting. If they are still alive with a rear spinal shot they bite their rear end, say it may be like another dog is holding it back , and let me go....
The fox is one that got mostly down the hole being pulled by a yote, and the tail let go.
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Post by bobwendt on Nov 14, 2008 0:41:08 GMT -6
worse part about a bobtailed she fox is the pups all die beacause the sun shines in and sours all the milk. ....... bob, I get a bit of that. I think some coyotes do it out of frustration at their situation. serious on the second comment. and I know their buddies do it to them. had an older beech few days ago and fur all over. it was her mate as the tracks clearly showed, and next day he was there too. I guess urging her to come along and not putting 2 and 2 togather why she won`t mond.
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Post by Bob Jameson on Nov 14, 2008 5:32:13 GMT -6
That fox was a yearling she fox, the tail was healed well upon examination at skinning time.Had to have happened at a young age being cropped off or a defect of sorts.Never knew of the milk souring due to exposure.
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Post by bobwendt on Nov 14, 2008 7:47:15 GMT -6
probably mom in cleaning placenta at birth ate the tail off. we had a lot of fox do that when we raised them. the milk was a joke .
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Post by trappnman on Nov 14, 2008 7:58:04 GMT -6
worse part about a bobtailed she fox is the pups all die beacause the sun shines in and sours all the milk
what?
what about bob tailed dogs, cats, etc, etc-
what about canines with short hair tails- their milk gets half curdeled?
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Post by bill1306 (Phil) on Nov 14, 2008 8:15:25 GMT -6
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Post by bobwendt on Nov 14, 2008 9:36:24 GMT -6
made my milk sour.
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Post by freepop on Nov 14, 2008 14:02:52 GMT -6
Very interesting
Thanks for taking the time to share the info for us newbs
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Post by Possum on Nov 14, 2008 14:17:43 GMT -6
I caught a coyote with half a tail a week or two ago. Catch a bunch of coons with bob tails. Always well healed and quite often big ol' boars. I figured, like Bob says, the momma bites them off when cleaning them up after birth. Why are they big boars? Because like humans, big guys don't give a hoot how they look to others. The females go hide in shame for not having a pretty, well ringed tail and starve to death.
I'm still trying to figure out why gals dye their hair green and put metal studs in their eyebrows.
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Post by bobwendt on Nov 14, 2008 14:29:26 GMT -6
it`s advertizing that they will do all that stuff, you know what stuff. they all do it, just the green hair and eyebrow stuff means right now, no pretense of a movie and dinner yak yak yak.
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Post by blackhammer on Nov 14, 2008 16:28:15 GMT -6
Actually boar coon lose their tales fighting during breeding season.Ranch fox females will sometimes chew the tails off a their whole litter.Green hair and eyebrow piercing mean right now,good tip,hope I don't get slapped or worse.
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Post by blackhammer on Nov 14, 2008 16:31:45 GMT -6
tails not their stories.
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Post by northof50 on Nov 14, 2008 17:39:04 GMT -6
ya with a lawyer.
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Post by northof50 on Nov 15, 2008 0:44:30 GMT -6
Generation gap.......where's the nitro?
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Post by trappnman on Nov 15, 2008 7:17:41 GMT -6
bobtail coon is also a genetic thing-
I have one area, that gives me more bobtails over the years by far, than all other areas combined.
and its easy to see, it they were born with a tufted tail, or it was broke off.
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Post by thebeav2 on Nov 15, 2008 9:22:00 GMT -6
I personally have not seen a female coon with a bobbed tail. And I can't remember ever seeing a young male or female with a bob tail.
If It were genetic there would be female coon with bobbed tails and young of the year coon with that trait. I don't see It.
It has to be a fighting Issue.
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Post by JWarren on Nov 15, 2008 9:27:39 GMT -6
and its easy to see, it they were born with a tufted tail, or it was broke off. how? |
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Post by trappnman on Nov 15, 2008 15:58:18 GMT -6
you can see the bone end if broke off, a partial tail- if born that way, there is just a bump, and a tuff of hair where the tail should be-
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Post by trappnman on Nov 15, 2008 16:01:02 GMT -6
I personally have not seen a female coon with a bobbed tail. And I can't remember ever seeing a young male or female with a bob tail.
I have- guess there are a few things you haven't seen, huh old buddy?
If It were genetic there would be female coon with bobbed tails and young of the year coon with that trait. I don't see It.
ditto
its in one area- a way walk in location- if I get one this year, I'll take pics- its mink location mainly, so coon take depends on the weather. I've maybe taken 6-7 over the years from her- and te age/sex has no pattern.
I've seen it in a singleton coon here and there
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