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Post by RdFx on Apr 13, 2008 8:05:54 GMT -6
Im not sure with fleas but with the mange mite , approximately 24 hours without a host i believe they expire.. i may be wrong and if so , someone can correct me and post any scientific studies that addressed the issue.
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Post by Bigfoot on Apr 13, 2008 11:55:13 GMT -6
Fleas can live for quite some time without a host by subsisting on dead skin particles left in the bedding material by the normal host . If you don't believe me just walk in a barn where organic hogs have been beading a month after they have been removed . You won't stick around long.
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Post by northof50 on Apr 13, 2008 16:10:23 GMT -6
What bigfoot said is correct, and to expand it a little more. The larvae actuall live on the dandruff and with the Human Flea it takes about a month to go through a cycle. So walking into a area a month latter there is a lot of hungry little buggers around is TROUBLE. Usually they want somewhere it's moist that gives them 2 locations to choise. And they do get your attention quite fast in the lower spots. 99% of the time it is the same flea on hogs, pulex irritans. Fleas can live without a host for some time. REd squirrel fleas can go 6 months and can blood feed then freeze to -40 c/f and come back to live with a blood feed meal. No other insect can do this after blood feeding.
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Post by bob on Apr 13, 2008 18:23:56 GMT -6
no . fleas soon starve witout a host. eggs and fleas can survive maybe 3-4 weeks max, but then they starve if no beard to jump in. and if it`s cold out they freeze to death as they need the hosts heat to survive. strangly our eastern fox and coyotes are flea-less, yet the wyoming stuff is ate up with fleas. I don`t know why the difference. maybe the heavier fur on the western stuff make life as flea easier. but fleas can`t live for extended periods offa host, nor can mange mites or lice, and definitly not a nyear ort anywhere even close. I`d say 3-4 weeks on fleas ,max.. and only hours on mange mites.
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Post by musher on Apr 14, 2008 4:31:13 GMT -6
Bob: my reds have fleas. Not tons but a dozen is pretty common.
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Post by swdawg on Apr 15, 2008 17:59:07 GMT -6
May the fleas of 1000 camels (or 1 Western red fox) infest your armpits.LOL.
When toting a red fox around here you pick it up by one toe and walk 3 steps,then put it down and pick the fleas off of you.Repeat the process as many times as required to get back to the truck.
Promptly put the fox in a garbage bag and Raid the crap out of it and seal the bag for 45 minutes minimum.
You would have to see it to believe it.No exaggeration at all.
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Post by bob on Apr 15, 2008 18:30:11 GMT -6
I believe it. that`s the way it is in wyoming. I told my naked flea dance story on here once before. went over to ck out a fox den and reached in to pull out an old antelope leg. immediatly a million fleas jumped me as the fox had left and I was the first warm meat in a few days. dropped trow and stripped and dancing around as the boss is flea spraying me. we look up and there is the rancher and hired hand on horseback up on a ridge a 1/2 mile away. they could`nt hear anything, but see the boss running around me as I flail arms and spin . they never said a word about it. prolly thought it was some weird trapper foreplay.lol, ya, brace yourself ethel, here I come!
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Post by coonhangman1 on Apr 15, 2008 19:03:34 GMT -6
LOL
"The Streak" Wendt fox denner!!! lol!!!
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Post by bob on Apr 15, 2008 19:33:39 GMT -6
about like the time I`m paying up at the gas station. I feel a flea walking thru my eyebrow and see the cashier staring at my face. I know she sees this "bug" walking thru my eyebrows. no one says anything. but you know she knows and likely knows you know she knows that you know. so it`s like a fart on the dance floor. no one did it, no one says anything. but you aren`t getting any tonight.
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Post by freepop on Apr 17, 2008 14:13:28 GMT -6
I believe it. that`s the way it is in wyoming. I told my naked flea dance story on here once before. went over to ck out a fox den and reached in to pull out an old antelope leg. immediatly a million fleas jumped me as the fox had left and I was the first warm meat in a few days. dropped trow and stripped and dancing around as the boss is flea spraying me. we look up and there is the rancher and hired hand on horseback up on a ridge a 1/2 mile away. they could`nt hear anything, but see the boss running around me as I flail arms and spin . they never said a word about it. prolly thought it was some weird trapper foreplay.lol, ya, brace yourself ethel, here I come! Look Wilbur, them trappin' folks have an unusual way of cortin' LoL Lucky it wasn't Marty Soufer, he'd a filmed you LOL |
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Smitty
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just let me set one more trap
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Post by Smitty on Apr 17, 2008 15:01:07 GMT -6
5 minutes to skin a deer here,knife, tree ,2 pieces of rope ,and a golf ball...5 min. tops  |
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Post by northof50 on Apr 17, 2008 21:57:13 GMT -6
Well Bob when it comes to fleas that's how I make my big bucks trapping, the fur is just extra. I make $ 100.00 even before the shovel scrapes off the road killed coyote off the road. That's 6 fleas @ $17.00 tax receipt per specimen, 3 males/3 female of one species of flea, and if there is more species then there is all the more money.
But seriouly there is quite a bit of the disease one being Tulerimea and the fleas are a major cross vector to trappers. I believe that Saskatchewan had 6 reported cases of trappers last year contacting it.
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