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Post by musher on Apr 9, 2008 16:58:03 GMT -6
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Post by gameboy on Apr 9, 2008 21:06:08 GMT -6
That is what I do too....you'll be amazed. I haven't seen the first sign of pelt damage either and I have really wacked'em.
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Post by 17HMR on Apr 10, 2008 6:05:09 GMT -6
Someone explain this I cant see the youtube stuff
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Post by thebeav2 on Apr 10, 2008 6:58:20 GMT -6
I can't see It either. But My buddy uses a ball peen type type hammer around the front shoulders and especially In the arm pit area. He uses my skinner and when the coyote Is pulled up tight as It will go he starts to beat on It with the hammer In that area. It seems to work pretty good. But while he's skinning $15.00 coyotes I'm doing $40.00 coon I guess you just got to love those coyotes LOL
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Post by bob on Apr 10, 2008 7:04:59 GMT -6
anything you have to beat with a hammer to skin, it sounds like nailing the carp to the board and roasting and then throwing the carp away and eating the board. I couldn`t see the coyote beating film either. nothing came up. Prolly saved me ruining a good hammer.
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Post by trappnman on Apr 10, 2008 7:11:54 GMT -6
I think people should learn to skin coyotes- banging on them with a hammer?
this myth of how hard and time consuming to skin? come on- they aren't that hard to skin. Guess its like beaver- you do enough, and its not a daunting chore- its just skinning.
I'll skin 2-3 coyotes by the time you skin 1 deer cleanly. And thats "clean skinning" those yotes....
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Post by thebeav2 on Apr 10, 2008 7:39:36 GMT -6
from what I can see when he does It, It just loosens up that area around the arm pits. If It helps so be It.
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Post by Lone trapper on Apr 10, 2008 7:42:44 GMT -6
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Post by trappnman on Apr 10, 2008 8:58:33 GMT -6
I used to hammer on screwdrivbers, stress my back etc on front legs til I thought there must be an easier way (there is... a machine ). Many come up with easier ways- my way is to ring and slit the front legs from the ankle to about an inch from te chest. Peel these back, and when you come to the legs its no big deal, tey just pop through. to me one of the "secrets" in skinning- is skin whats easiest- don't fight it. Thats why I like being able to spin an animal when skinning. It is gets tough at one spot, it will be easier on another, and by doing the other spot, the hard spot becomes easy.
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Post by Bigfoot on Apr 10, 2008 9:47:56 GMT -6
A trap stake with a nut on it also works well for this .You can hammer the tough parts with the nut end of the stake and Then you can poke the trapstake between the shoulders and skin and push down . Danny Clifton showed me that trick and it works real slick.
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Post by musher on Apr 10, 2008 14:18:38 GMT -6
It's what Beav wrote. He pounds the shoulder areas to loosen them up. He then uses the hammer handle to slip through the armpit area and pulls down with it.
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Post by wheelie on Apr 11, 2008 5:38:15 GMT -6
Some guys must really have some tough coyotes to skin.....lol
(after front legs are cut off) the only tool I use is a skinnin knife and my elbow (my wieght pushes my elbow down the pelt along the sides and around the arm pits) this method I feel can keep up with any skinnin machine (except the machine probably don't get aggravated after 6 or 8 yotes....lol) cause it don't know that the work its doing is for a $5.00-$10.00 yote...lol
Hammer?......dang....same deal with "Punching out Coyotes"....ummmm, why use more energy than needed? My version of "punching/hammering out coyotes" is elbow as a driving wedge from start to finish....(no hammer needed).
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Post by td on Apr 11, 2008 7:52:06 GMT -6
Some less experienced do make it more of a job than it is. Use your knee, a headbutt, foot in a loop or an elbow all you want. I prefer not to get grease, blood or guts on me or my clothes. lol
Here's a method i've thought of based off the road kills I've done. Lay the coyote, or several for higher production operations, in some sort of pattern to allow them to be driven over with a vehicle. After pulverizing with the tires, just open the critter as usual and turn him inside out and flesh.
Some expermentation may be necessary to ensure all the insides blow out the mouth hole or the butt .......or both, so as not to rip the hide. Also note, a bigger receptacle may be needed under the fleshing beam. lol
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Post by musher on Apr 11, 2008 13:47:02 GMT -6
The guy that does the skinning on the video seems to have a done a few in his time. It certainly worked for him. No blood or mess on a hot, shot coyote.
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Post by jbconnected on Apr 11, 2008 20:18:43 GMT -6
Lay the coyote, or several for higher production operations, in some sort of pattern to allow them to be driven over with a vehicle. After pulverizing with the tires, just open the critter as usual and turn him inside out and flesh. Oh man, I have got to get me one of those new skinning vehicles!
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Post by northof50 on Apr 11, 2008 21:09:08 GMT -6
His advise on thre fleas and raid sprayingis certainly true ...BUT.... those fleas are known as Pulex irritans or the common name is "the human flea".( small black3-5mm. triangular in appearance) It will readily take blood meals and live on you and is responsiable and as a major disease vector. Garbage bag the animals for a full gassing effect of the "RAID" or any pyrethrime spray.
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Post by trappnman on Apr 12, 2008 6:39:55 GMT -6
for fleas, I just spray each one good as I hang them- and no fleas, no problems.
Oddly enough- I don't recall 1 flea on my KS yotes this year. Jefff- is that normal all year?
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Post by kevinupp on Apr 12, 2008 13:12:28 GMT -6
My luck I'd try that and have the hammer backwards and not realize it until the 3rd or 4th whack.
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Post by northof50 on Apr 12, 2008 21:38:00 GMT -6
If the yotes are not going back into their old dennings then they are not being re-infested with new fleas. The adult fleas can live on them for a year. Have you ever gone up to a old litter den and stuck your beared head down the hole? There are a lot of newly emerged fleas looking for a blood meal.
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Post by trappnman on Apr 13, 2008 6:35:33 GMT -6
are you saying fleas can live without a host?
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