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Post by james dakota741 on Apr 26, 2006 14:37:51 GMT -6
Ive used speed dip for maney years and still have trouble with a good mix.. Ive tried high octane unleaded and white gas . with a ratio of 1 gal gas per quart of speed dip .. Ive heard of people using mineral spirits but haven't tried myself .. anyone have any tips or maybe mixing in different ratio?
thanks Jim
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Post by JWarren on Apr 26, 2006 14:50:36 GMT -6
Mineral spirits and about 1/4-1/2 quart of dip to 1 gallon works for me. I don't bother dipping them unless they have a nice coat of rust to soak it up. I like a thin coat because it dries better. I tried the regular mix and got sticky spots where the mix dripped off the traps.
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Post by james dakota741 on Apr 26, 2006 15:56:49 GMT -6
thanks jwarren
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Post by ColdSteel on Apr 26, 2006 16:18:40 GMT -6
I dip all my conibears in speed dip with no problem at all.I use1 gal of coleman fuel to a quart of dip.I even mixed black with brown last year and I liked the color better.They were not as shiney but just using the one color.I also wait and dip in the summer I think the dye sticks better in hot weather
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Post by CoyoteMan50 on Apr 26, 2006 16:38:16 GMT -6
once you use formula one you won't never go back to that gas base dip.
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Post by briankroberts on Apr 26, 2006 16:50:46 GMT -6
Here's my question? After you have used this trap during season, lets say in December and decided it needs retreated, can you redip it one day and use it the next?
I can rewax and use that trap the next day, sorry I tried the dip and saw no advantage and many disadvantages.....B.....
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Post by JWarren on Apr 26, 2006 17:24:05 GMT -6
I was thinking about water based paint, its not far fetched that all the trap coatings are sold as a different product for another application for 10x cheaper somewhere
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Post by ColdSteel on Apr 26, 2006 18:08:38 GMT -6
Speed dip is very fast and holds up well.Like I said I use dip on all my water traps and most are still in good shape.I don't have to worry about redipping any traps.The dip cost 6.95 a quart and I used 2 quarts of dip to 2 gal of coleman fuel.I dipped over 200 traps all 330's and 280's and 220's and still had over a gal left.I just put it into one of the empty coleman fuel containers and will use it again this year
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Post by james dakota741 on Apr 26, 2006 18:12:53 GMT -6
i use wax on all my fox and coyote traps ... i like the speed dip for conies and raccoon foot traps ... I'm interested in the foundation paint that was mentioned .. what color is it and is there a brand name or something i should ask for at the hardware store?
thanks jim
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Post by NEPISIGUIT on Apr 26, 2006 18:27:12 GMT -6
Cold steel Your right on with your comments, Summer makes a big difference.
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Post by thebeav2 on Apr 26, 2006 19:21:03 GMT -6
Are there any commercial fishermen out there?
I was looking In my Miller Net Co. catalog and I see that they sell a net dip.It's described as a synthetic water based liquid dip. And It's cheap at $37.00 per 5 gallons.
They also sell a product called NetCoat (tar) It runs $29.00 for 5 gallons could these products be used to coat traps. It might be that they are the same thing being sold now under different names.
I personally dip all my traps that aren't used for cats and canines with latex paint. I can dip one day and re set the next day. I wax all my other traps.
Gary
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Post by CoyoteMan50 on Apr 26, 2006 20:04:50 GMT -6
Well in my experience with the Formula one is that its ready in 24 HR. Brian. and you don't have to wait all summer for it to dry just to have one coon buff it all back off the trap jaws to bare steel as you have with the regular speed Dip. I've used them both also and I'll take the Formula one over it all. this is the first year that we tried it on K-9 Traps and it worked great. it also work Great on our snares it made them lighting fast and we used the brown and it really camo them as well. and if you buy a quart and mix in 3 quarts of water as it calls for you have a gallon seems pretty reasonable to me.
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Post by mean1 on Apr 26, 2006 20:09:07 GMT -6
The Beav may be onto something here, I purchased some turtle traps from a dealer and the nets were dipped in formula one  mean1 |
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Post by Bristleback on Apr 26, 2006 20:51:27 GMT -6
I dip my snares in F1 at a mixture of 1 can of brown and 1 can of white to give me a nice tan color........I've not perfected the water ratio yet, but I do make it thinner than the instructions. My only issue is at times I get a little gummy like stuff once in a while.....so I need to work on my water ration or buy some distilled water maybe that will FIX it for me, we have extremely hard water here.............I have confidence in F1 for my snares, try mixing some colors you'll like it.
Besure to hang snares, closed and the closed end UP.....
I wax all my coyote and bobcat traps.
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Post by thebeav2 on Apr 26, 2006 21:10:20 GMT -6
The biggest problem I have had with F1 Is that the traps rusted under the coating.I never had that problem with wax or paint.
Gary
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Post by Heavymetal on Apr 26, 2006 21:46:33 GMT -6
My opinion don't really matter since I am an unskilled trapper, But I bought some of this speed dip and never used it. I heard a pro trapper say he done a study on using speed dip oppose to logwood dye and his catches decreased using speed dip. I have had good luck with natural dye or logwood crystals. Why change something if its working.
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Post by trappnman on Apr 27, 2006 6:44:21 GMT -6
The biggest problem I have had with F1 Is that the traps rusted under the coating
It seemed like the first couple of years, I didn't get that next day rust after using F-1- but I sure did in the few years after that. And thats with dipping in it 3-5 times. Where the chain links met, seemed to be the worst.
When I ran a line JUST to determine digging factors or dips vs wax- both speed dip and F-1 were sadly lacking- or should say- were dug at a far higher %- meaning traps dug at daily... compared to the waxed traps.
I went back to wax, etc on canine traps 3 years ago, and will never switch back.
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Post by JWarren on Apr 27, 2006 10:09:59 GMT -6
Who was the guy posting coyote pics with multi colored red and blue traps? I meant to ask him what the coating was but I think he was afraid of being berated by the wax folk if he told.
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Post by 17HMR on Apr 27, 2006 10:23:47 GMT -6
Jwarren, I remember that too, I seem to think they were powder coated, but not sure.
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Post by thebeav2 on Apr 27, 2006 11:41:23 GMT -6
Several years ago I powder coated 6 doz #2 bridgers. And I did 4 or 5 doz 160 Bridgers.
I lost a fair amount of spring strength on the bodygrips. But I think It was because I left the springs set during the process. They still kill coon but are a bit weaker.
The #2s turned out great, no loss of spring strength. A coyote will nick and scar them up a bit but It's not bad. After the season I just clean them and re wax them. And clean up Is a breeze.
If you could afford It I think It would be the way to go.
Oh ya they were all BLACK
Gary
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