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Post by netrap on Apr 27, 2006 10:07:07 GMT -6
Back in the early 90's for two years ago we had a lot of high winds and one tornado. These are the years I started using log crossings heavily. Our local creek and river were littered with down trees and logs. In two years I took 100 coon and a couple dozen coyotes cats and red fox of these crossings. Now I will go out of my way to set a crossing. Some of mine are anywhere from a 6" log to full trees across the water. I use strictly snares on mine. I like to staple a no.9 wire for a support and either tie off to a tree branch or staple to the log. I like a 5/64 snare for less visibility. One log I took 5 fox off of. The strangest catch was two bobcats caught at the same time in one snare. One female and a smaller one.I've taken many many doubles of coons on the longer crossings. Yep, I love those log crossings.
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Post by trappermike220 on Apr 27, 2006 15:52:59 GMT -6
Wouldn't the kitten be at yearling size? It must of been a very late litter?#?
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Post by Corey on Apr 27, 2006 16:00:17 GMT -6
Cats will breed anytime of the year....toms will follow the sows to kill the kittens to bring the female back into heat so they can breed them, house cats, bobcats, cougar.......
But I don't quite understand how she kept ahold of the kitten hangin off the log, maybe netrap could elaborate??
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Post by trappermike220 on Apr 27, 2006 16:27:17 GMT -6
Thanks for clearing that up for me corey
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Post by thebeav2 on Apr 27, 2006 16:29:29 GMT -6
That's no so hard to believe.I once caught a bob cat In a 330 on a dry land crossing and It had a hen mallard clutched In It's mouth.
Gary
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Post by mustelameister on Apr 27, 2006 16:57:12 GMT -6
"330 in a dryland crossing" . . . What state was that in Gary?
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Post by jeffc on Apr 27, 2006 17:44:24 GMT -6
A part of my line has wide deep water for over a mile on the creek and knowwhere to cross unless your swimming or at the end of the mile and a half on a beaver dam. I was thinking this summer I might try to put a couple old telephone poles across the creek and by season I'm sure everything would be using them what do you think of that idea?
Jeff
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Post by trappnman on Apr 28, 2006 6:56:30 GMT -6
Fox will walk a log more than a coyote will- coyotes readily take to the water to cross. Yet even on coyotes, I'll see where they wil lcontinually use certian logs to cross.
I've had some success in the past with th old chopping out a trap bed in the log. With snares now legal, it opens all types of possibilites.
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Post by netrap on Apr 28, 2006 8:58:45 GMT -6
Yeah, Thanks for clearing that up, before it got deleted. Nothing is for sure in nature. IMHO
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Post by oldmink on Apr 30, 2006 17:46:21 GMT -6
I've tangled with too many non-targets on log crossing sets to have any real affinity for them. Way too many squirrels. And as Steve has noted, all that lovely chopping. Too many easier locations to catch fur.
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Post by SteveCraig on Apr 30, 2006 19:11:06 GMT -6
Log crossings and snares are like bread and butter! No non-trgets either.
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Post by NEPISIGUIT on Apr 30, 2006 19:58:17 GMT -6
Really like log crossings. A friend and i found a large white pine that had fallen across a small stream not far from his camp. We noticed scratch marks on the log where an animal had jumped off a bank to the log. We did not know what animal it was at the time but suspected it might be fox. We set up as you described with snares and staples. We caught eight fox off that log before it rotted and high water took it out. Since that time i have set up many logs but none as good as that.Wish my friend was still here with us as he would probably be able to find another just as good.
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Post by PamIsMe on Apr 30, 2006 20:17:37 GMT -6
NoT In WI. Geez I bet the Game warden will be here any day now with that statement cut and pasted from this forum. It's happened before. Gary
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Post by rk660 on May 1, 2006 4:13:25 GMT -6
I do better setting the trails approaching the log, but will set log if best option. for rigid support wire, use 2 fence staples about 2" apart, keeps it from twisting. small brush can be fence stapled each side of snare also to break up outline. Ive seen cats cross logs many times in snow, but havent had much luck targeting them on logs. I think they know every log to cross around, and dont go out of their way to hit a certain one maybe. Maybe I get them before they return to the log I set too.
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Post by trappnman on May 1, 2006 6:12:38 GMT -6
rich- no experience with cats, but I see many times where canines pass by logs that look good to me, to cross on"their" crossing log.
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Post by SteveCraig on May 1, 2006 7:32:47 GMT -6
Crossing logs take a lot of pre-season work. Get rid of all of "theirs" and make them use "mine". OR.....git rid of all of mine and leave only "theirs". Location is the key. I too set BOTH the approach trails and the log. Hey Rich, you can get by with only one staple if you just bend about 1 to 3 inches of the support wire back onto itself and staple both in one staple. It wont twist this way either! Just less driving is all.
Steve
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Post by thebeav2 on May 1, 2006 7:35:33 GMT -6
Beaver dams do the same thing and are killers when it comes to cats. We don't have many coyotes In my area of the Carolinas so I can't comment on them but man you can rack up the cats. I have lots of predation from cats On trapped beaver on beaver dams. A snare or a sweet spot set up for a foot hold will do the trick.
Gary
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Post by rk660 on May 2, 2006 0:15:46 GMT -6
;DThanks Steve, amazing how something can always be made simpler. Why couldnt you have told me that 10 years ago. I ave one hammer hit on thumb per staple, now that my left thumb is about the size of a thick sausage, I could have fended off 1/2 the damage to it over the years! Now that its big enough to hold 2 staples against the log at same time, this advice just doesnt really do me as much good as it would have a decade ago. ;D
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