Post by nvwolfer on Mar 11, 2006 9:11:26 GMT -6
I sure don't know beans about trapping coyotes and and probably shouldn't be posting this as I'm dumber than a pail of rocks when it comes to trapping or for that matter anything else in this big old world.
That being stated and understood I just wonder why and how the big love affair got started again with dogless traps. At one time I probably had more number 3 and number 4 dogless Montgomery's than should be allowed by law. That was the only trap that I was using. They bedded easily and laid nice and flat. There were problems though but I felt they were the best trap available at that time. The pans were a pain in the butt, they broke off even when the seams were welded. Then Montgomery stopped making the traps and pans were nowhere to be bought. So everytime I had a pan go bad or break off I had a trap with no pan. But the biggest problem with them was pan tension. I'd file and get it where I wanted it but it was a pain in the butt. Once it was set it was set and if I wanted to change it I could go up in tension but not down. I also ended up with pans that I always seemed to have to bend to get them to lay flat. Then I ended up one day with a dozen number north woods. Once I started using them I realized in a big hurry that this was one heck of a coyote trap. But out of business they were and darn if I could find many to buy. Then the Bridger's came on the scene an, almost north woods clone. So I sold and gave away dozens and dozens of dogless traps and did so with a smile. Well the dogs do get bent on occasion but most times I can take my hammer and straighten them out and if I can't straighten them out I bought some heavy duty triggers from Robert Mullins that only a coyote on steroids can bend and replacing them is relatively easy. Another thing about the dogless traps (when stating dogless I don't include the Jake even though it is dogless as the pan can be adjusted and jaws laminated nor do I include the Sterling both excelent traps) is that the bottom jaws cannot be laminated. I know you dogless lovers are going to say they can if you use to separte laminates. Well I'd almost think that with a coyotes leg in the trap would be more damgaing than not being laminated. I do like the number 9 wire lamination on the bottom of the jaw and 3/16th inch round stock I am able to weld on the top jaw of the Bridger's plus the fact that I can adjust the pan tension and get my 3 to 4 pounds just by the feel of the pan going up and down without the trap even being set.
So that's my disertation on that matter. I'm not selling anything promoting anything it's just my opinion based on very extremely limited experience, even more extremely limited knowledge and a big old bushell basket full of dumbness.
That being stated and understood I just wonder why and how the big love affair got started again with dogless traps. At one time I probably had more number 3 and number 4 dogless Montgomery's than should be allowed by law. That was the only trap that I was using. They bedded easily and laid nice and flat. There were problems though but I felt they were the best trap available at that time. The pans were a pain in the butt, they broke off even when the seams were welded. Then Montgomery stopped making the traps and pans were nowhere to be bought. So everytime I had a pan go bad or break off I had a trap with no pan. But the biggest problem with them was pan tension. I'd file and get it where I wanted it but it was a pain in the butt. Once it was set it was set and if I wanted to change it I could go up in tension but not down. I also ended up with pans that I always seemed to have to bend to get them to lay flat. Then I ended up one day with a dozen number north woods. Once I started using them I realized in a big hurry that this was one heck of a coyote trap. But out of business they were and darn if I could find many to buy. Then the Bridger's came on the scene an, almost north woods clone. So I sold and gave away dozens and dozens of dogless traps and did so with a smile. Well the dogs do get bent on occasion but most times I can take my hammer and straighten them out and if I can't straighten them out I bought some heavy duty triggers from Robert Mullins that only a coyote on steroids can bend and replacing them is relatively easy. Another thing about the dogless traps (when stating dogless I don't include the Jake even though it is dogless as the pan can be adjusted and jaws laminated nor do I include the Sterling both excelent traps) is that the bottom jaws cannot be laminated. I know you dogless lovers are going to say they can if you use to separte laminates. Well I'd almost think that with a coyotes leg in the trap would be more damgaing than not being laminated. I do like the number 9 wire lamination on the bottom of the jaw and 3/16th inch round stock I am able to weld on the top jaw of the Bridger's plus the fact that I can adjust the pan tension and get my 3 to 4 pounds just by the feel of the pan going up and down without the trap even being set.
So that's my disertation on that matter. I'm not selling anything promoting anything it's just my opinion based on very extremely limited experience, even more extremely limited knowledge and a big old bushell basket full of dumbness.
you pm me if interested in getting rid of them...High levers only...I will take all you got...1000 or more not to many if you got em...you let me know...no joking!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
