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Post by coalminer on Feb 22, 2006 21:58:35 GMT -6
Got some Bridger # 2's, anyone ever weld the frame together on the bottom. Instead of base plating, was able to bend some 60 penny nails with a nice loop, was going to weld this to the frame with three links of chain to get outside the jaw and swivel fom their. Any thoughts good or bad?
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Post by CoyoteMan50 on Feb 23, 2006 9:59:13 GMT -6
Yes I always weld the frame on my Traps. I don't like or trust spot weld. I don't care who says it isn't needed. I've seen to many spot welds come apart. and you can base plat with that 60 penny nail that should work fine.
TrapperLarry
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Post by Bernie on Feb 25, 2006 6:30:31 GMT -6
I always weld the frame where the metal crosses. I'm there with the welder putting on the base plates, whats 20 more seconds. I like the idea of getting the swivel out from under the frame. I find it harder to bed the trap solid with the dang swivel under there. Any help there??? Bernie
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Post by coalminer on Feb 27, 2006 18:10:26 GMT -6
Bernie, Yes that helps. Have you ever used like a 1/4" rod vs a base plate? Your #2 bridgers, are tehy reqular jaw or os?
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Post by Bristleback on Feb 28, 2006 8:20:16 GMT -6
I too weld the frame solid, you're there, only takes a few extra seconds. I base plate to stiffen up the trap. I now have go to a 40D nail and put a notch in it to accept my chain, weld solid to base, 3 links of chain then a Crunchproof Swivel. I like 3 CP swivels on my traps. I too like getting the swivel out from directly under my trap, especially in frozen ground. I wouldn't get carried away with chain off the trap then swiveling as some critters like to build a mountain of a catch circle and I've seen several times the only swivel left working is the one directly below the trap, as the other 2 swivels are buried in the mtn.......BB
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Post by blakcoyote on Feb 28, 2006 10:44:45 GMT -6
Have you ever used like a 1/4" rod vs a base plate? I have,it works pretty good.I just buy 1/4" cold roll rod in 10 foot lengths and cut to length.I usually attach a nail swivel,and it isnt a problem bedding for me since my beds tend to be bowl shaped and everything,stake and chain lays directly under the trap in the bowl.
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Post by Bristleback on Feb 28, 2006 11:24:43 GMT -6
D good lookin rig there, hows the back?
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Post by blakcoyote on Feb 28, 2006 11:28:26 GMT -6
Thanks Bristleback,the neck is getting better.
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Post by Bristleback on Feb 28, 2006 11:45:13 GMT -6
Neck/back they are hopefully still connected? On that tedious welding with a mig welder I tend to get a big old bugger looking of a weld......any suggestions from you pro welders. I see where I need to spot weld, fold the helmet down and go to strike an arch and ..........crap my hand moved or the trap moved......but I hate that tedious stuff, suggestions...please
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Post by blakcoyote on Feb 28, 2006 11:53:49 GMT -6
Yeah there still connected,LOL,with a plate. If you have a voltage knob on your welder,try upping it to get things hotter.On my welder the guns trigger actvates the juice,so I just hold it right on the spot and flip my lens down. BTW,I also weld all the cross frames on any trap,unless it's already done like on the montanas.
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Post by mike692 on Feb 28, 2006 11:53:58 GMT -6
Bristleback, get yourself an auto-darkening helmet. If you do any amount of welding it's worth it. I CAN'T weld with a regular one. When I flip the helmet down, I'm completely lost. That Blakcoyote sure can weld, can't he? ;D
Re rod baseplates. I'm not a big fan, but that's just my preference. I'm sure they work fine. I am kind of partial to Conner's notched baseplate with the end hookup. You have to grind the rivets off the bottom of the Bridger in order for it to accept this baseplate, so I do weld the cross piece. Probably would anyhow.
I think it was Beav who welds a single link of chain to the bottom of his traps for a side hookup.
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Post by Bristleback on Feb 28, 2006 12:01:23 GMT -6
Yep ol D can weld..........fold the helmet down and get lost.........that sounds like me...LOL I just hold the trigger down for a while sparks fly everywhere...oh not a good idea to wear tennis shoes with nylon over the toes....I have socks w/holes to prove it's not a good idea..LOL.........back to welding......after the sparks fly for awhile I let up on the trigger and flip up the helmet to see what I have........LOL ;D
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Post by mike692 on Feb 28, 2006 12:16:41 GMT -6
Dwayne, I learned early in my welding career to keep my pant legs over my boot tops. Sparks in the socks sucks. (say that three times fast ;D) I'm telling you, get yourself an auto darkening helmet....it goes from crystal clear to blackness INSTANTLY. And back to clear in the same. I think I paid around 50 bucks for one on ebay. If you can't afford it, ask your friend from Nebraska to buy you one......from what I've seen he really OWES you......
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Post by Bristleback on Feb 28, 2006 13:32:35 GMT -6
LOL...you think he owes me? For clarification......I use the 40D nail as a connector to my base plate.....I bend a notch in it to allow for a loop of chain and weld the nail to the bottom of the baseplate......that has been welded to the bottom of the trap.
Say a prayer for the ol husker fan.......he has plans of heading to the timber again tonight...yep in the dark. Can't imagine what he'll look like tomorrow...LOL Says he's taking his dogs out coon hunting......wonder what adventure he'll have tonight?
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Post by mike692 on Feb 28, 2006 13:47:59 GMT -6
For clarification......I use the 40D nail as a connector to my base plate.....I bend a notch in it to allow for a loop of chain and weld the nail to the bottom of the baseplate......that has been welded to the bottom of the trap. Gotcha. Just so he leaves the chainsaw at home.....
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Post by Corey on Feb 28, 2006 14:02:20 GMT -6
LOL Mike and BB don't worry, the wife took my chainsaw away from me after the last fiasco... I'm actually about all healed up, got a new pair of glass's, and my short term memory is getting better,so i'm ready to go back out to the timber to try my luck again...I should be pretty safe tonight, no saws, or knive's...just me and the hounds. Hey this is an interesting post, thanks for the different thoughts guys, its alway interesting to hear how everyone else does their mods. BTW...here is a picture of me after my tree cutting episode. LOL ;D
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Post by mike692 on Feb 28, 2006 14:14:51 GMT -6
Are you sure a tree fell on you? That looks more like something that a female companion would inflict..... ;D
Seriously, I'm glad we can joke about this. Just shows that anything can happen in the woods and you have to be on your toes at all times.
And to keep this post on topic, I agree. I've gotten alot of good ideas for trap mods on this forum.
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Post by Corey on Feb 28, 2006 14:18:53 GMT -6
Yep a tree hit me across the back of the head, knocked me cold, I fell onto another log when I fell down, lucky I could have lost an eye, or been killed....back to the topic at hand, sorry to ramble...LOL
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Post by Bristleback on Feb 28, 2006 15:44:12 GMT -6
On topic.......curious as to what many think of the round rod for laminations vs square. I went from: #9 wire to 3/16" round to 3/16" square to now 1/4".......if we're trying to displace energy and "thicken" the jaws...why use round....
Ol husker fan: you gonna take any pics of you n your hounds tonight? Don't forget your GPS....LOL
Back to the topic: I've heard/read it mentioned that some do not like center swiveled canine/bobcat traps as when centered the critter has the "chance" of depressing the levers and letting it's self out.......seriously? All jokes aside...
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Post by gunny on Feb 28, 2006 17:32:31 GMT -6
On jaw laminations, I use square stock, more contact surface on the foot.
Even with 1/4" round rod, there is only 1/16" or so on the very "edge" of the round stock contacting with the foot. Round rod is not worth it IMHO.
Laminate a trap with round laminations, then laminate one with square stock. Snap a survey stake in both traps and look at the dents on the stake.
Bristleback, we still need to get together.
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