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Post by nevergivinup on Jan 11, 2006 15:38:08 GMT -6
Has anyone ever tried a trap base? That is, for example, a light cement or otherwise to use to set the trap on for extreme wet conditions?
I am getting to where the bedding in my area is just plain ol too wet, and I am thinking of trying out a mold for the trap.
Thanks in advance,
Chris
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Post by SgtWal on Jan 11, 2006 19:27:11 GMT -6
Like this?  wayne |
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Post by nevergivinup on Jan 11, 2006 20:05:26 GMT -6
WOW!!! That's exactly what I was thinking of!! Can I ask if you ordered it, or did you make it?
Chris
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Post by SgtWal on Jan 11, 2006 20:43:36 GMT -6
This is wood and carved to fit an old Oneida Jump #4. It's in a friends collection. A good router and a chunk of 2x12 should work for any new trap out there.
A cross slot for the frame and levers, some room for the pan, and a groove for the jaws is all there is to it.
wayne
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Post by nevergivinup on Jan 11, 2006 20:58:20 GMT -6
Thanks so much Wayne!! I'm going to give that one a shot! Do you use them very often?
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Post by billcat on Jan 12, 2006 1:27:38 GMT -6
Try a blind set on top of the ground. Sprinkle a little of whatever is handy on the trap pad. Use stepping sticks and block it tight on the sides. I catch a fair bunch of coyotes this way in cat sets.
Bill
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Post by nevergivinup on Jan 12, 2006 5:57:02 GMT -6
Bill,
Are you saying you put the trap on a trap base? Or, do you simply set it on the top of the ground?
Chris
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Post by trappnman on Jan 12, 2006 7:06:44 GMT -6
I simply see no advantage in using such a base. I could see HOW it could be used- but it would give no advantage and perhaps serveral disadvantages to bedding. Just an opinion of course, since I have never used such a base.
What exactly do you think would be accomplished?
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Post by lynxcat on Jan 12, 2006 7:42:53 GMT -6
ME thinks he was just trying to bring out all the people that DONT know...at least the ones WITH an opinion...  lol Bill is VERY right ... I ALSO catch a bunch of coyotes in EXPOSED traps...wileyE aint quite so wiley is he now... lynx |
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Post by nevergivinup on Jan 12, 2006 13:00:49 GMT -6
So, by "exposed" you are saying that you simply put it on the surface of the ground?
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Post by nevergivinup on Jan 12, 2006 13:01:16 GMT -6
Sorry for so many questions, new to the trapping is all!! Thanks again.
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Post by billcat on Jan 12, 2006 14:50:11 GMT -6
Yep, right on top. If I think the trap will freeze to the ground I put a doubled piece of wax paper down first. Seems to me if you use a trap base like above, you'll end up with your trap frozen in a bath tub. Dicarded that idea in the 1970s, without even trying it. More junk to haul around, too.
Bill
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Post by nevergivinup on Jan 12, 2006 20:13:51 GMT -6
I might just get gutsy and try that Bill! I still am unclear of what to actually do, probably because I am over thinking/ analizing. I will set trap on the ground, and create a walk thru.
Would a squirrel help? I have several around that are becoming a nucense.
Chris
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Post by billcat on Jan 12, 2006 20:41:50 GMT -6
If you are after coyotes, no scent is best. I'm after cats so I use a heavy dose of cat scent beside the set, helps keep most of the coyotes out and the trap is ready for a cat, when one comes by. It's interesting to see how a coyote acts when it gets a wiff of stinky stuff. Tracks in snow tell the tale. Some big nasty dogs are still suckers though. Like I said, no stink is best if you're after coyotes. Don't think so much you outsmart yourself, give them a try.
Bill
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Post by nevergivinup on Jan 12, 2006 22:03:05 GMT -6
Bill,
Cat scent keeps yotes away? Hmmmm, interesting. I have both a clear cut area to trap, and a wooded area to trap. Both of which I am trapping at this time. What would you suggest to use as guides, as I have been told much of the time guided areas scare yotes?
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Post by mostinterestingmanintheworld on Jan 12, 2006 23:40:20 GMT -6
Most coyotes are leery of guides. I make my cat sets similar to Bill's and try to discourage the coyotes with flags, guides exposed traps etc.
It doesn't matter there are some coyotes that seem to want to commit suicide. I caught one two days ago that climbed a tree with the drag.
I forgot my camera, it would have been agreat pic for here.
Joel
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Post by billcat on Jan 13, 2006 14:40:25 GMT -6
The cat scents I use are attractive to all predators. If I were to use it for coyotes, I would use a small dose, not the heavy dose at a cat set. Still, after watching coyotes turn off the trail 20 - 30 feet from the set (I can always tell when they get the first wiff), I wonder how many coyotes are leary of sets made for them, if there is any scent present at all. Snow tracks tell the tale, but how many negative or hesitant reactions occur on dry ground when you can't see tracks? I have caught a lot of coyotes over the years, now I'm wondering just how many unknown close approaches there are for every one you catch. Food for thought. By the way, if you want the coyotes, hang snares in the openings where you think they are going to bail off the trail. Haven't tried it, but wolf trappers in Alaska snare wolves this way.
Bill
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