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Post by BK on Nov 29, 2006 5:54:00 GMT -6
Been using #160's the last 3 weeks. Works like magic! Just like trail setting for coon. Put coni in path and BINGO. The easiest set I've ever made. I like sticking the extra spring into silt deposits left on the turns of the creek. I tried to explain this to Beav, but he's getting old and his memory is starting to fade fast. Scot..............I'd like to take a peak at that book. Beav.............. I'll be down Thur. with more rats. ;DThis rain put all my traps on hold except, you guessed it, my BE sets.-Dan
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Post by thebeav2 on Nov 29, 2006 8:12:27 GMT -6
I'm on my way out the door to check traps will report back In few hours on the results of the bottom edge fiasco. LOl
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Post by trappnman on Nov 29, 2006 8:22:18 GMT -6
nothing wrong with the BE- but I strongly disagree that it is the easiest, bestest set ever....
and I laugh that a conibear set partially in water, as has been mentioned in previous threads,...is credited to KS's "invention" as a bottom edge set.
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Post by packerfan on Nov 29, 2006 8:31:18 GMT -6
"FIASCO"! Has it really come to that? BK........You've got to get down here and help Beav out! I would do it myself, but you know how teachers are when it comes to taking advice from their students. Scot..........How are your BE sets coming along? If we keep getting rain I'll need a bass boat to run my farm ditches. -Dan
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Post by packerfan on Nov 29, 2006 8:42:05 GMT -6
Steve.....What would consider an easier set to make? I'm no expert and can make this set in 10-20 seconds. Spring into soft silt bottem edge and hand shove stake into bank. -Dan
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Post by Steve Gappa on Nov 29, 2006 9:48:50 GMT -6
a blind set can be made as quick as the trap can be set and a stake pushed into the bottom. Few locations won't take a good blind set.
don't misunderstand me- I like the BE set for certain locations- but I feel its success depends on your creeks and your conditions and cwertainly your mindset. as BK says- you are catching the same mink either way
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Post by thebeav2 on Nov 29, 2006 10:35:03 GMT -6
Dumbest thing I ever did. Checked sets most of them I couldn't find will have to look later when the water drops. It's up about 18",the traps I did find were empty except for all the trash that had washed down stream. I'm wondering If this type of stream lends It's self to the B&E set. Just seems to me there Is too much current to deal with. I should have pulled the ones I could find but I didn't.
B&E sets SUCK SUCK
I'm going back to baited pockets and blind sets when the water stabilizes.
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Post by primetime on Nov 29, 2006 11:15:05 GMT -6
Personally I don't think you should put ALL your eggs into one basket. Spread it out - use the sets you are confident in and add a FEW bottom edge sets in those areas that jump out at you.
Once you make a few catches in the Bottom Edge sets add a few more if the locations exist - if not stick with what works.
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Post by packerfan on Nov 29, 2006 15:59:55 GMT -6
Good point Steve. Hard to beat the coil in a blind set for simplicity. I just checked one section of my water line. 24 footholds under (10 inches)water. 0-24. Nothing! 10 BE sets. 8 rats. 80 percent. This section was on a 2-day check. BE sets RULE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Gary...............Did you get that beaver yet? -Dan
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Post by trappnman on Nov 29, 2006 17:58:55 GMT -6
packerfan- yes, unstable water makes blind sets hard to keep in operation- but look at the beav's woes.
I trap smaller creeks, and the water is fairly stable- and when it does rise- its down in a day.
but what the heck is going on- first of Dec friday and we got rain. They were saying if temps were cooler, we would have gotten 8-10 inches of snow.
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Post by ColdSteel on Nov 29, 2006 18:19:00 GMT -6
I haven't tried the bottomedge set for rats and mink before but I have tried it on beaver with so so results nothing to brag on but I have been told I could catch a beaver in a mud puddle .
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Post by packerfan on Nov 29, 2006 18:20:48 GMT -6
Praying for snow tonight. I'll be deer hunting the next few days. I hope I don't see rain 'till next spring. -Dan
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Post by BK on Nov 29, 2006 19:05:31 GMT -6
Beav. I think you should stick with baited pockets an 18 inch raise in water and the crap it stirs up would hurt a pocket set at all. Scott at the first spot I took you to when you were here I set up 4 BE sets in a row about 10 feet apart. I ran them today and caught 1 rat and 2 mink,....... the farthest trap up stream was empty.
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Post by thebeav2 on Nov 29, 2006 19:17:53 GMT -6
Well your student either didn't learn anything from you or he didn't retain the Information. LOl I will re set when things stabilize I'm not giving up just yet.
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Post by frenchman on Dec 1, 2006 12:14:08 GMT -6
Tried it here on Quebec streams and one thing I learned is to avoid maple forests - leaves keep traps plugged daily.
Have tried it again this year, but confidence and catches low, although I am told that it works well (Noonan and some Quebec friends). Have yet to catch a mink in one, tough to keep in place on rocky creeks, but I am told it only gets better when it freezes (well, assuming the trap is deep enough so that it does not!@)
yet unconvinced,
--Frenchman
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