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Post by furman on Aug 6, 2006 1:23:18 GMT -6
Will Procoon bring in rats along with coon?
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Post by trappnman on Aug 6, 2006 5:12:53 GMT -6
I've caught coyotes, fox, rats, etc on ProCoon- but not enough to call it a lure for those animals.
I get no more rats at sets lured with ProCoon than blind sets.
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Post by ColdSteel on Aug 6, 2006 6:56:27 GMT -6
Alot of you boys on here are good rat trappers bu tI hav enever used a lure that I thought actually helped on rats. have caugth more on blind pocket sets than I have with lure.My best blind set would be a log sticking out of the water in a river bend out of the current
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Post by thebeav2 on Aug 6, 2006 7:07:36 GMT -6
In my experience lure can't hurt your rat catch. When trapping on the rat house I know lure will make you more successful. On most rat houses there are many different ways a rat can land on the house a good lure with eye appeal will put that rat In your trap with no guess work as to where that rat will pull out on the house. And you can take that to the bank.
Gary
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Post by ColdSteel on Aug 6, 2006 7:26:58 GMT -6
Beav whats a rat house . ;D.We don't have them around my parts( at least I have never seen one ).I have seen some nice pictures of some in magazine
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Post by trappnman on Aug 6, 2006 7:36:46 GMT -6
beav- I've found you can catch just as many rats at houses without lure, simply by placing the trap at a depression, manmade or natural.
I am 100% convinced that lure for rats is wasted lure.
NOT that rats don't come to lure- they surely do-
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Post by shagnasty on Aug 6, 2006 8:03:14 GMT -6
i don't like luring good blind rat sets because then i stand a real good chance of getting plugged with a coon. we got way too many coon down here to be luring rat sets unless you can live with the fact that you are going to load up on coon.
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Post by thebeav2 on Aug 6, 2006 10:30:02 GMT -6
Why do I use lure on rats houses? Well I want to make that rat go where I want It to go. That goes for all rat trapping situations If you have lots of rat sign and a minimum of good drowning water then I want to pull that rat to where I can drown It. Lure will do that. There are lots of places on your creeks and streams that may show good rat sign but are marginal for trap placement lure will put the rat where you want It. In freezing weather I want my sets on the windward side of the house and the side of the house that gets the most sun. Wind action will keep the windward side free of ice for a few day's longer then the lee side of the house. With lure I can direct the rat to the side of the house where I can still keep my sets operating. It may only be for a few hours each night but It will catch you more rats. Do I care about coon nope, I want to catch every thing that walks the banks. Steve said rats come to lure.Well that's why I use It.
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Post by trappnman on Aug 6, 2006 10:42:50 GMT -6
I also said- they come without lure just as well....LOL
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Post by foxtail on Aug 6, 2006 11:14:51 GMT -6
I bought some a few years back on clearance which was almost the closest thing to a miracle in a bottle you could find.
The rats came out of nowhere to get to it.
It is not made anymore and I don't remember what it was called.
I will try to find one of the bottles.
All I did was stick a twig which was dipped in it on a bare bank and put a trap next to it to get rats. Oddly enough the coon didn't seem to care for it.
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Post by foxtrapperwoman on Aug 6, 2006 12:23:01 GMT -6
LOL on the procoon, I think you would just pile up coons at those sets instead. The coons also like rat lure. 11 coons caught and 1 dancing rat not caught, thats me... Of course I had also tossed some rat meat in the holes for mink as well, but then rats will go for that too from what I hear ( Charlie Dobbin's water video).
Now I wonder if I gang set to get the coons before rat season even opened, if the rats might actually come to the pockets, lured or not, later on after the coons are thinned? Or would I catch rats out of season in the coon sets instead? Seems things would work that way for me, huh? LOL
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Post by Steve Gappa on Aug 6, 2006 12:34:36 GMT -6
I've water trapped coons when rats were out of season. Placing the trap back from the pocket, and in a little deeper water as steven says 4 or more inches- will eliminate most of your incidental rat catches.
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Post by shagnasty on Aug 6, 2006 13:13:01 GMT -6
beav is just coon crazy, that is why he uses lure at his rat sets
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Post by ColdSteel on Aug 6, 2006 13:18:42 GMT -6
With the strong meat market he has got I can't say I blame him.I have a very hard time selling coon meat.Seems to me like the younger generation likes to eat out alot.Alot of the older folks around here have died off
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Post by musher on Aug 6, 2006 15:50:56 GMT -6
I've seen rats go for rat meat but I believe that the tail end attracted them more. So is it the meat or the glands?
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Post by Stef on Aug 6, 2006 17:14:34 GMT -6
Preserved ground spring rat glands are the best lure in my book for muskrat even in the fall. But like many others are saying.... you can do as good if not better without lure. For the rat house.. Us here, we set traps inside the house ;D
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Post by shagnasty on Aug 6, 2006 18:16:33 GMT -6
i can sell every rat carcass i get, but cant give the coon carcasses away. one year i had a fella say he would take all the coon i could get, so of course i figured too good to be true, so i went out and knocked down a couple dozen real quick to test the waters. he shows up and says 5-6 will do. so i ask what "all you can get" meant. and he says he figured 5-6 is all i would come up with. he had no idea i would get "that many". i just told him he had no idea how many i could get if he really bought them all. never seen him again. hahahahaha
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Post by foxtail on Aug 6, 2006 19:55:51 GMT -6
OK, I found the stuff. It is called Buckstops Muskrat. Had to sniff it when I found it. Naturally I found some steelstrip AFTER most of the traps are done.
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Post by bnolan on Aug 6, 2006 20:16:20 GMT -6
Heard alot of great stuff on this lure. I plan on buying some at the NY convention next month I see Buckeye Trap supply sells it. Is it a paste lure or a liquid lure? What is th best way to use it? Pocket sets, trailing?
CHT
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Post by Stef on Aug 6, 2006 20:49:06 GMT -6
If you're talking about ProCoon... Its totally liquid but can resist any bad weather you can imagine... super long lasting .... It last a year or so no joke!
Can be used straight, mixed with fish oil, fish, meat etc.. It will fixed other stuff it comes in contact with if mixed and aged well in advance.
Good luck!
Stef
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