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Post by trappnman on Jul 6, 2004 12:12:28 GMT -6
Ya need a hat. Tomorrow. 1 trap...
bait.....or lure?
or...location says it all...either will work.
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Post by Timber on Jul 6, 2004 12:25:20 GMT -6
Location- It's hard to catch coons that are not there. ;D
Good lure and bait helps but if you know coon are in the area then you can catch them in any set.
Tim
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Post by Maineman on Jul 6, 2004 12:29:27 GMT -6
Location, Location, Location...ok and a little lure...lol
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Post by Traveler on Jul 6, 2004 12:39:10 GMT -6
It's gotta be location.The best lure in the world won't catch much on the moon . ;D
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Post by SteveW on Jul 6, 2004 21:13:16 GMT -6
Gotta go with location, many coon are caught without the use of lures or bait.
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Post by Sage Dog on Jul 6, 2004 22:18:56 GMT -6
Location. My grandfather always said if you put salt on a bird's tail you can catch it.
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Post by RiverRat on Jul 7, 2004 0:26:11 GMT -6
Sage I rember chasin birds all day with a salt shaker my gramp said the same thing. Then I got my first bow I got back at them birds LOL
Location with out the coon there to start with you anit gonna skin it. I like a good lure an bait. But kill plenty with 220s in trails. RR
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Post by CoonDuke on Jul 7, 2004 7:19:44 GMT -6
Time to stir the pot... ;D ;D
What is the definition of lure?? ProCoon alone is a lure but what is it when mixed with fish oil?
My LAST choice for coon trapping is a lure in a 1 oz bottle.
I like a "lure" mixed with fish oil or a fish bait. Bait stuck in different crevasses and oil squirted all over the place.
The easiest way to miss a coon is to have one attractor at a single spot that the coon can see and reach (like a stick dipped in lure). I can't dig deep pockets in my creeks, so I need to lure/bait at multiple spots at the set to keep the coons interest. In order to do this my attractor needs to have mass.
Side note: One of my favorite sets I make (when the opportunity presents itself) is the "honey stump set". When I find a rotten stump or log, I squirt honey in all the holes, cracks, and crevasses and bed a trap in front. The punkier the stump....the better. It is kind of a novelty set though because honey is not cheap...
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Post by trappnman on Jul 7, 2004 8:06:41 GMT -6
Have you tried the poke hole set? On any bank, you can poke 3-4 holes about 10 inches apart in a row, and lure (bait) each hole.
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Post by CoonDuke on Jul 7, 2004 8:22:24 GMT -6
Steve,
Yes I have and I have had good luck with the set. Thorpe calls it a "Slick up set" and Mike Marsyada uses poke holes and puts a rubber crayfish on the pan. I have caught coon in both variations.
Thorpe covers the trap with mud and debris and it is barely underwater if at all. When the water level goes down the set still catches coon (as well as cats and possums). If the water goes up, and you have some high poke holes, it will still catch coon.
One of the biggest "revelations" I have had coon trapping is when I realized to put lure/bait up high. It blew my mind when I was catching coon in over a foot of water after water levels rose.
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Post by trappnman on Jul 7, 2004 8:58:25 GMT -6
One of the biggest "revelations" I have had coon trapping is when I realized to put lure/bait up high. It blew my mind when I was catching coon in over a foot of water after water levels rose.
Another old wives tale MythbreakerDuke...that coon do not like to get their bellys wet in cold weather. If only that were so...it would make Jan/Feb rat trapping much easier.
I often have pvc pipes above a trap 6-12 inches on water and do just fine on coon. Much deeper than that, and you get a swimming coon.
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Post by CoonDuke on Jul 7, 2004 9:12:21 GMT -6
Yes, I feel that coon travel IN water quite a bit (when they are AT the water). In warm weather as well as cold. I have seen many times coon tracks traveling in the water when there is a nice sandbar right beside to travel on. Why? I have no idea...but they do spend a lot of time wading. It doesn't really look like they are looking for food the way the tracks are...it looks like straight line travel.
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Post by mustelameister on Jul 7, 2004 10:57:40 GMT -6
A good set for swimming 'coon, during stable water conditions  --- That large tree growing out of the water where you can see that 'coon traveling the river's edge swim around the tree and then hitch back up on the bank on the other side. A #220 Coni holder is screwed into the trunk just above the water level, and the #220 (half submerged) is set into it and wired off to a root or stapled into the tree. The triggers are opposite the trunk, which means side-side grasp on the 'coon, but drowning finishes the critter. Triggers are also located below water level so there's a clear opening. A couple of guide sticks fencing off the outside of the jaws just outside the dog helps to force the 'coon into the #220. A trick set, but on certain trees, repeatedly takes 'coon year after year. I would suppose snares are also an option, but the #220 in this set works super. You'll also find mink and 'rats in this setup. On my favorite trees I have #220 holders running vertically about every four inches. This way you have the option to lower or raise the bodygripper as water conditions dictate. I usually locate these on the downstream side of the trunk, so debris floating downstream doesn't trigger the Conibear. |
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Post by trappnman on Jul 7, 2004 11:20:22 GMT -6
good tips on the conis  GrasshopperDuke... It doesn't really look like they are looking for food the way the tracks are...it looks like straight line travel.Dang you- you are starting to sound like that MN guy. I believe you are exactly right. I notice the same thing in coon tracks wandering over snow- if they are hunting or even looking for food- you would think they would walk the areas where food would BE... that is why..in mid winter conditions... I believe a coon is really not looking for food...but is just out wandering....and I still think that water might be their goal. Curiosity lures...even a real good shot of fox urine in the hole- In fall and again in spring...coon are in that eat,. eat stage. But I think it is a mistake to think that is the driving force al lseaosn. At least here in the cold climes where it is typical for coon to hole up weeks at a time. In more southern climes, they might stay in this hunger mode all year. |
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Post by Sage Dog on Jul 7, 2004 16:35:54 GMT -6
CoonDuke,
Honey IS expensive, but wouldn't it work about as well if deluted? Or honey essence in water or a lure base?
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Post by CoonDuke on Jul 7, 2004 20:41:57 GMT -6
Yeah, It probably would work diluted. I have made the set with fish oil too and that works just as good. It just wouldn't be the "honey stump set" though without the honey...LOL ;D ;D ;D
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Post by trappnman on Jul 7, 2004 20:46:32 GMT -6
Maybe take Julie with ya... ;D (she gets tired, she sits, Honey, get off that stump... don't make me go further... ) |
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Post by CoonDuke on Jul 7, 2004 20:49:56 GMT -6
;D ;D
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Post by dj88ryr on Jul 7, 2004 21:17:10 GMT -6
LMFAO!!!! You are on a roll tonight Steve!!!
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Post by 17HMR on Jul 7, 2004 22:32:55 GMT -6
I use the honey stump set also, except I use old fryer oil with just a little fish oil mixed in. Jeff
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