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Post by 3n on Apr 13, 2007 9:38:13 GMT -6
Plenty Coyotes..excellent lure for deer.
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Post by Jeffrey on Apr 13, 2007 9:43:22 GMT -6
If you really want it Bob I'll PM you, but I would catch porcupine in the middle of harvested corn fields with that stuff. At the time I was only running a doz. traps and every time I would freshen the sets, bang two or three porkies. I caught over a dozen in a week before I stopped using the stuff. I even tried the stuff in a fisher set and caught a thirty pounder in a #220. ;D
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Post by Bob Jameson on Apr 13, 2007 9:47:02 GMT -6
Having worked with and experiemented with just about every available meat source both domestic and wild, hoofed animals on down the list to rodent types, I based my opinion upon those findings. Ageing various products a little to a total melt down I have tested them all over the years in as an unbiased way as could be done with field tests. I had interest shown in all with some having more appeal then others. But all fared well and held some attraction to canines and other animals as well.
Point being, these test materials whether being rotted down to a complete liquid or left in a meaty consistency at some form of age and only being single element products each attracted canines to the application area drawing them close enough to step on a patterned sifted test area the size of a typical set. Some dug the sets slightly, some aggressively , some showed no activity with respects to digging just a visitiation. But all the tested products showed visitations to some degree.
Of course there is always the variable of those that may not have come very close as the others to show credible interest in that odor. That is always a factor that cannot be determined 100%. That does and will happen at times without our knowledge.
Even the most aged or decayed matter left in a fluid form of any meaty byproduct will have some form of attraction. Now you add some other ingredients to this aged or so called rotted down base material and you may now have yourself a bang up lure.
Many may not realize how many lure bases come from passive to total melt down material of some type of meat byproducts. Brains, intestines,stomachs to a total body rot down in some cases to the actual trimmed body muscle mass tissue itself to name a few.
Any number of the named animal parts have the potential to make a fine lure base or ingredient for use in a formula if one knows his business.
Many things will work and the most simple of formulas will produce.How they work out as far as productivity is dependent on many variables.Is it possible for a product not to work under some circumstances which could be the result of many variables once again most certainly.
But to say a product will absolutely not attract anything ,anytime or for anyone or even attract the intended target animal for which it was designed is just not a reasonable deduction.
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Post by Bob Jameson on Apr 13, 2007 9:49:33 GMT -6
Jeffrey,I too would be interested in that product as I have caught porkies in sets intended for cats and canines but not that many to say it was a specfic ingredient.
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Post by trappnman on Apr 13, 2007 9:54:02 GMT -6
I don't think I have ever used a lure, that I didn't catch at least a few critters.
Of course some are better- but in my younger days, I triedo ut a lot of lures- usually changing each season to a new brand- thinking back then that they got "used" to thel ures...
now of course I know that 60-70% of the population is YOY, and its all new to them. Plus- I've taken several coyotes the second time on the same lures, so even then, as a rule...
But anyway, all lures I've ever tried- both bought and given to me- have all had some sort of success.
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Post by NEPISIGUIT on Apr 13, 2007 13:21:54 GMT -6
I could use that porky lure also in wildlife control work
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Post by edge on Apr 13, 2007 19:50:18 GMT -6
**There are definitely some lures on the market (maybe just bad batches) that have rotted down to where they absolutely have no appeal to an animal. Maybe these lures were stored wrong, left out in the sun for years, the synthetic ingredients broke down or what ever but they do exist! **
I agree with this.I have had some lures last through seasons,whereas some became almost shellac smelling.......kind like shellac and baby oil mixed............wierd thing is while the smell was the same,the manufacturer was different....or WAS it....Hmmmmmm.
Theres a reason I use the lures I do.
Edge
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