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Post by NEPISIGUIT on Apr 2, 2007 17:56:49 GMT -6
Can some one tell us why or if a dog is so important when trapping coyotes. If it is imp. what are some of the ways it can be used. and what type and where to get info on training. I have heard the mention of dog on quite a few post.
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Post by rockcreekcurs on Apr 2, 2007 21:12:41 GMT -6
I think a lot of guys just like to have one along. They can also find any critters that may have pulled a trap. I like to take my dogs everywhere. Where to get one......? Wherever you can find one you like. Take care. Mason
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Post by thebeav2 on Apr 2, 2007 21:35:47 GMT -6
my trapping partner takes his black lab every place he goes. In my opinion It's a real pain In the butt. And to top It off It has to ride In the front seat like I said a real pain.
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Post by rk660 on Apr 3, 2007 10:50:03 GMT -6
"my trapping partner takes his black lab every place he goes. In my opinion It's a real pain In the butt. And to top It off It has to ride In the front seat like I said a real pain."
Does that mean the OLD GEEZER takes second fiddle to the mutt and has to ride in the pickup box. The guy probibly lets the better smelling one sit up front. LMFAOROTF ;D
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Post by timbob on Apr 3, 2007 15:59:51 GMT -6
Dogs can be good at finding and marking natural sent posts and locating trapped animals on drags and other animal smells we miss. Also excell at chasing elk through fence lines (if your dogs not broke)
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Post by Stanley on Apr 3, 2007 16:06:18 GMT -6
You are either a dog person or not. I love my dogs, they also ride in the front of the truck. My dogs have proved to be a plus on the line with me., Ask K-9 or Zagman about there dogs.
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Post by Rally Hess on Apr 6, 2007 8:39:04 GMT -6
A good one can smell beaver under the ice, doesn't mind bologna sandwiches every day, will actually eat burned pancakes, keeps bears out of camp or your canoe, doesn't mind sitting in the middle ( they are smart enough to know the guy in the passenger seat has to open all gates), will wade through muskeg all day just to be with you, keeps the beaver fleshings off the fur shed floor, will wait by your canoe in the rain while you shuffle the trailer and truck at landings, will sleep on ice or in an ash swale, doesn't care how you smell, will always sleep between you and the fire to protect you from spitters, and doesn't ask for half the fur check. The perfect trapping partner.
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Post by musher on Apr 6, 2007 10:06:14 GMT -6
They also never break down like snowmobiles. (At least they never all break down at once...)They'll go pick up the grouse that you potshot off a tree and rolled down the bank. They are good company in that they are quiet and never complain. They guard the truck and make a good, warm place to wipe snow off of hands. In an emergency situation they will make finding you that much easier and if they curl around you they will delay hypothermia.
They will smell out muskrat as well as beaver. They can quicken the finding of a grappled animal. Watching them on a trail will help you set a snare.
Best of all, you can cut wind and blame the dog.
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Post by bulletbox on Apr 6, 2007 10:59:40 GMT -6
Here is one thing a dog is good for, when a kitty pulls the drag out into open country, and the ground is so HARD you just see a drag mark or two..... One PO'ed tom kitty Tracer arrives on the scene to pester him some.... One quick pup.... I knew he was getting to close, I can't believe I got the picture....
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Post by timbob on Apr 6, 2007 19:58:13 GMT -6
Tracer is no dummy! Cool pics
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Post by rk660 on Apr 6, 2007 22:45:05 GMT -6
Bullet, do you have to be real careful with that JR to keep him from getting ripped open? My Jagds would get themselves ripped open on cats, as they believe themselves to be tough enough to take on anything up to and including small bull elephants, and if they get bit, clawed, chewed on once, they develope a nearly obsessive hatred towards what caused them greif, and jump into a fight the next time with a passion. Brave or dumb, aint figured out which yet? I know after a large male alleycat caused some greif, the next poor kitty cat that crossed their paths...well...it wasnt pretty, for the kitty anyways. I didnt know a cat could be pulled through a chain link fence.............
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Post by bulletbox on Apr 7, 2007 9:44:31 GMT -6
This one hasn't been got yet, he seems to know just when to bail out of a situation.....
Now his Mom was a different story, she never got on a cat, but she could not leave a skunk alone...
If there was a skunk in a trap, she was gonna kill it, most of the time she knew what was in the trap before I did.... if I saw a skunk in a trap, I could make her stay in the pickup, most of the time...but after I dispatched it, it was usually to tough for her to take... she would have to give it a shake or two.....
I have had pretty good luck with both of them... I could leave Mom out, but every year, I would have to break her from chewing water hoses... it was pretty easy with a shock collar... when she was a pup, she killed a chicken and I put a muzzle on her, she hated that, and hated being chained... so I soon figured out all I had to do was chew on her some and chain her for a few hours and the stuff stopped, other than digging..... I never broke her from that.....
She wanted to go everywhere I went, and when she couldn't she would lay on the porch with a big stuff doll, until I got back and pouted....
She got into some antifreeze from a leaking tractor, and that got her..... I sure miss her... but the pup is OK, but I can't let him run around the house... he will leave... and in sheep country, any dog is usually shot on sight... so I keep him penned up most of the time.....
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Post by rionueces on Apr 7, 2007 14:35:05 GMT -6
Great photos Bullet.
Back in high school, a friend of mine had a pit bull he wanted to bring along on the line. He did just fine mauling coons and coyotes. The only problem was that he never had been around javelinas.....
The "invincible" pit bull met his match when he ran into a boar stink pig. The fight was over in about 10 seconds, and Mr. Pit bled out on the way back to town.....
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Post by rionueces on Apr 7, 2007 17:49:59 GMT -6
I will put one of these little stinkers up against any dog.
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Post by bulletbox on Apr 7, 2007 20:23:14 GMT -6
Yep, them over growed rats can be mean critters...
I had a buddy that had one as a pet... durned thing thought it was a dog... they called it their watch hog...
Ate dog food, slept with the dogs, even would bark at you when you came into the yard... but once he "met" you and knew your scent he never forgot you...
Now back to javey and dogs... the only dog I ever saw that could eat a javelinas sack lunch was a healer, he would never go to the front, but worked them from the rear, until the hog quit, and they will finally quit and lay down... then he would just bay them... never really fought one, but would work the fire out of them.... We roped several using that old blue dog, but he finally met his match with a big rattler, that old snake got him in the gut, and he was dead before we knew he was bit.....
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Post by k9 on Apr 7, 2007 22:26:03 GMT -6
They can be handy and a pain in the ass too. I usually do not take mine along the first week as I am going too hard on coon, and just do not have the time. After I slow down a bit I bring them along. Most have to get caught a time or two before they can be with you without causing problems.
They can be handy for finding animals that is for sure. If I was in drag country I would have one with me every day. You have to be a dog person though, for it to work for you.
Last year I was dumping the dogs out on some level B roads letting them run off some energy and I had to stop doign that. Got tired of them peeling the coons out of my traps before I would get to them. Don't want them tearing up my trapped pelts or the meat for that matter. Let them hunt thier own coons.
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Post by kevinupp on Apr 8, 2007 9:01:13 GMT -6
LMAO!!!!
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