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Post by coyotewhisperer on Mar 26, 2007 18:36:25 GMT -6
Was gonna play around with a fermented egg lure base. Anyone got any tips on fermenting the eggs? Seems in Hoofbeats OG hates all egg lures. Must have been someone back then selling more lure than him and it had egg in it? Quite a few people on this forum like a couple certain lures that they may not know has a base of S.F.E Anyway would appreciate any egg comments.
Jeff
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Post by romans117 on Mar 27, 2007 10:24:37 GMT -6
Evidently no cares for your thread. Thought I would help give it a bump. I would like to know too.
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Post by coyotewhisperer on Mar 27, 2007 10:54:39 GMT -6
I guess the people in the Know don't want us to Know LOL I'll try to figure it out on my own Ive got 28 laying hens so plenty of experimental eggs.
Jeff
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Post by FWS on Mar 27, 2007 11:06:16 GMT -6
Tried fermented eggs and synthetic fermented egg years ago and neither was very effective on anything but skunks and possums.
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Post by Bristleback on Mar 27, 2007 11:09:49 GMT -6
Only going from memory, seems SFE was a "rave" years ago.......when the smoke cleared it seemed to be quite the skunk and possum lure..........seemed like trappers were commenting on yotes rolling in it, if skunks and possums didn't beat them to it..........that's about all I can recall.
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Post by robertw on Mar 27, 2007 11:12:37 GMT -6
Some guys swear by the SFE on burnt stick / posts sets but....I imagine a these same animals or more could be caught in dirtholes or regular flat sets.
Just my .02 worth.
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Post by Bob Jameson on Mar 27, 2007 12:04:27 GMT -6
Ok I should add my .02 cents also.
Aged eggs or blended (fermented eggs) are not and will not ever be SFE that is a totally synthetic man made chemical. Either would never smell the same. Natural vs synthethic.
Actually SFE it is a very caustic material.. It was made popular some time ago and has since lost much of its popularity and use. However it does have its merits in a formula if used with care and one understands the final effects of its use for canines or any other specie. When aged properly they are very creamy and smell very musky as aged eggs should. Yellow and mild in odor. Not black, sour and stinky as many have experienced.
Egg base products in general have a very good attraction to all predators when developed properly. Eggs are a prime food stuff and delicacy when found by a predator spring , summer or winter. Dont you think for one minute they wont investigate an egg derivitive product as a possible food source.
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Post by romans117 on Mar 27, 2007 12:42:17 GMT -6
SFE ?
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Post by Bob Jameson on Mar 27, 2007 12:47:37 GMT -6
SFE ( Synthetic Fermented Egg) as it was named years ago.
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Post by romans117 on Mar 27, 2007 14:08:44 GMT -6
doh  |
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Post by timbob on Mar 27, 2007 18:13:01 GMT -6
I've used fermented eggs as a mini - bait station and they worked.
I might mix a batch with skunk essence and fish oil etc- as a cheap- home made concoction - even if it doesn't get the desired reaction at the set I figure that pitched in the brush or under a log or in a badger hole might create a milling effect- then use a designer lure at the set.
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Post by Clyde Isaak on Mar 27, 2007 19:00:38 GMT -6
Several years back I also wanted to try making some type of lure from rotten eggs, but the problem was I never could get an egg to rot. First I just put a few eggs out in my garage for a couple months in early summer. I cracked the eggs and they looked and smelled like I just took them out of the refridgerator.  So I figured they didn't get warm enough. Next I took a couple eggs and put them on top of my shed where they would be in the sun. Waited about 3 weeks and thought for sure I would have some stinky eggs now. Nope!!! Just somewhat cooked Never one to quite easily I decided they needed some air so I cracked a couple and put the eggs whites and yoke in a small jar which I again put on top of my shed in the sun. To give it some air I left the cap a little loose. Alright, now I was in business. It got into the high 90's for the next couple days and I decided to check them out, and once again I found that they just basically cooked in the jar, actually they looked like poached eggs. No stinky eggs for me. I finnally wised up and said the h*ll with it and decided lure making wasn't for me. ;D |
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Post by walkercoonhunter(Aaron L.) on Mar 27, 2007 19:01:39 GMT -6
i used SFE with some ok results but i mixed it with other lure that wasnt producing...i think i added a drop (out of a eye dropper) to the 4oz of lure that wasnt producing...and when the weather got cold it produced...but havent fooled with it since....i know SFE is a very very loud substance...and you dont want to go over board with it.......
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Post by briankroberts on Mar 27, 2007 20:02:55 GMT -6
A nice way I've found to Age eggs is to crack a dozen into a quart jar whisk well and bury for about 6 months, they break down really nice and make a very nice lure base.
I tried just setting the jar on the shelf and didn't like the way it turned out.....B.....
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Post by romans117 on Mar 28, 2007 9:05:33 GMT -6
A nice way I've found to Age eggs is to crack a dozen into a quart jar whisk well and bury for about 6 months, they break down really nice and make a very nice lure base. I tried just setting the jar on the shelf and didn't like the way it turned out.....B..... Why do you fly the Kansas flag? |
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Post by Jeffrey on Mar 28, 2007 11:19:31 GMT -6
For bear lure I used to crack a bunch of eggs in a mason jar, add a little bit of whole milk some mayo mix and let sit out in the shed for six months and you had a dump in a jar. I never tried it for yotes.
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Post by johnthomas on Mar 29, 2007 11:01:45 GMT -6
seems like the big o did not care for eggs as the main attraction in lure, mixed with meat and fish and glands he did, several luremakers sell a lure that sure looks like it has alot of egg in it. is that not the ingredient for the so called cream lures many sell?? mr. jameson, do you not sell a food lure of this type?jim masts old getter or food lure scents sure smelled like eggs and looked like eggs to me, wiley miles spoke of them as a base to i think.
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Post by FWS on Mar 29, 2007 14:50:59 GMT -6
Bearnaisse sauce ;D
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Post by Bob Jameson on Mar 29, 2007 17:03:48 GMT -6
Yes I have a couple of products that contain an egg base that I developed. One lure and one bait. Both do a good job. The base is only the starting point of any lure or bait . Other things make it what it truly is with ageing and blending in the other ingredients.
It is not easy and some have tried without good results to work with eggs. It is a challenge to work up a good egg base without losing the natural egg odor and spoiling the eggs and with out cooking the eggs as has been stated by some already. It took me several years working with it to get the base established. Then another few years to make a lure and a bait.
I have used it straight with success but it is prone to dry out with out adding other materials to hold it and keep it hydrated.
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Post by mountainman on Mar 29, 2007 21:56:21 GMT -6
I accidentally made some in the high school art class. We were using egg tempera paints with the yolk seperated and put into a margarine dish with a cover. I forgot mine in a cabinet over the weekend as I was probably daydreaming about trapping instead of paying attention and you should have seen the girls faces when they opened that thing. Whoooeeee. I believe I could have put a little sodium benzoate in it and had something that would rock the woods and fields. As for canine trapping with it I cant comment on that as we had a lot of reg problems that made that tough to get to do here. Something mixed a little milder would be good or maybe a hasmat suit.
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