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Post by Stef on Feb 14, 2007 19:17:13 GMT -6
Happened to me......
Sometime, you set a proven location. After couple NO coyote catch but sign all around trap sets.... you say, what's wrong with those sets or those coyotes.
So I moved those sets..not far 600-800ft... Same sets Same traps Same lures Just a different location.
Now the reality...
First check = coyote double + 4 more coyotes the next couple checks.
Now the $100 question
WHY?... What's is the deal with coyotes like that
Stef
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Post by bobwendt on Feb 14, 2007 19:23:03 GMT -6
probably all females.
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Post by Stef on Feb 14, 2007 20:31:59 GMT -6
no
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Post by Steve Gappa on Feb 14, 2007 20:38:48 GMT -6
I believe many situations like that are just the difference in territory- that your original sets were in more familar territory- and by moving even that much- you put them in less familar territory.
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Post by scott kimball on Feb 14, 2007 20:50:29 GMT -6
how about you where on the side of a boundry line which was used by another family group but lesser traveled by this other group.which raises a flag to the coyotes you caught when you moved the 800 feet. (just my though)correct me if i'm off track.
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Post by jmchitekrednek on Feb 14, 2007 20:54:59 GMT -6
Steve, thats an interesting point you make. I guess it would be like going to your neighbor's house to find something to eat in his refrigerator . For the most part, he's got the same food as you but it is just in a different place. You just have to work a little longer to find it and maybe move some things around in the process.
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Post by HappyPlumber on Feb 14, 2007 20:59:00 GMT -6
Somebody else saw where you were making your set and went over there and urinated on it. You can't see it but it will effectivly cause the yotes to avoid it. HP
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Post by Stef on Feb 14, 2007 21:17:13 GMT -6
Don't think so. Anyway, I used the same traps. Last ones caught were a year before i can see your point but as far as I know, on that farm, each time i followed that farm road.... These coyotes were traveling on that road all the time. So I believe I was right on their territory... Was not unknown to them. Stef
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Post by Steve Gappa on Feb 14, 2007 21:20:37 GMT -6
then was one area a stall out area- and one area a passing through area?
did the orignal location have the best and most sign?
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Post by GUTPYLZ on Feb 14, 2007 21:21:19 GMT -6
Did you catch one at that location already? I always have to move mine to do any good.
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Post by Steve Gappa on Feb 14, 2007 21:23:08 GMT -6
pass thorugh or stall out.
In some ways, a stall out area gives you the advantage, because you have coyotes present- but it also gives you the disadvantage of familiarity
I think that stall out areas for multiple family groups- common or social areas- have "easier" coyotes to catch.... than a stall out area of for one local group..
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Post by timbob on Feb 15, 2007 10:00:17 GMT -6
Happened to me...... Sometime, you set a proven location. After couple NO coyote catch but sign all around trap sets.... you say, what's wrong with those sets or those coyotes. So I moved those sets..not far 600-800ft... Same sets Same traps Same lures Just a different location. Now the reality... First check = coyote double + 4 more coyotes the next couple checks. Now the $100 question WHY?... What's is the deal with coyotes like that Stef STef- What I want to know is what was your thought process in moving the traps to where you did- and using the same lures, traps etc? IN other words whats your theory?
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Post by Stef on Feb 15, 2007 10:18:36 GMT -6
Well, a year before... If i can remember correctly... I got the Alfa female first, 2 pups, the huge male and another pup later and in that order and also in short order.
So the next year... I installed 3 traps, same location, there was sign. was a creek crossing 4 way intersection alfalfa and hay fields "very flat" short grass and muddy road. Have to say that a year before... the back fields were plowed when I put the sets in.
Now why I did that = could not catch my coyotes they were turning around my sets and could not figure why?
My theory = well...LoL one day, we had rain and like I said... that road/field was muddy. 600-800 ft from there.... Was a nice part of farm road close to a little sand pit where the road and field was a little more sandy so I decided to move the sets there "for less maintenance" and BANG... killed my shy coyotes there 1 after the others.
Have to say something... While writing this....... At that time, I was using peat moss big time. Was pretty wet and had to top dress sets at the 1st location with a heavy muddy clay top dress on top of each sets. Other location.... was more sandy so the blending was easier and should I say.... More perfect.
And the year before... If I can remember correctly... I used there before heavy freeze a mixture of dry sand and glycol.
I know... that could be my answer but I did catch those suckers a couple days later with the same bedding material with the exception of a different top dress.
Oh well...LoL
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Post by Steve Gappa on Feb 15, 2007 13:00:36 GMT -6
well... I didn't want to be the one to say it.... you just got lucky... ;D
I'm thinking the difference in blending was a large part of it....
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Post by raynard on Feb 15, 2007 17:05:24 GMT -6
I had this same situation happen with fox last year. I had a really good double set up along a lane that ran paralell to a hedge row. Lots of sign, good location. For 10 days, nothing.
Then I moved the set, same traps, same lures, same type sets, about 100 yards away. Bang, 5-reds: 3 males, 2- females. Go figure.
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