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Post by Stef on Dec 29, 2006 16:58:54 GMT -6
Today had at least 6-8 snare refusals. We had fresh snow couple days ago. Just before that new snow... no refusals to talk about Today... was a mess..grrrrr All these refusals were on farms where I killed couple coyotes. At the end of the day... I was seeing half of the moon coming in the sky and the full moon will be completely full in a few night. My question is...... Do you think with the moon shinning at night on that fresh snow... coyotes could see more my snares? Had refusals on both 1/16th and 5/64th snares. Stef
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Post by gunny on Dec 29, 2006 17:45:36 GMT -6
Yes, the snow and the full moon really make snares shine.
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Post by Woodswalker on Dec 29, 2006 19:20:53 GMT -6
Do you treat your snares with anything?
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Post by Stef on Dec 29, 2006 19:48:42 GMT -6
Little boiling in baking soda and I waxed all my snares now ( Camlocks here need that )
Stef
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Post by Woodswalker on Dec 29, 2006 20:04:18 GMT -6
I snare a lot around bait stations and plenty of times the coyotes will avoid the snares. It's funny though what often happens. At first they will approach the bait, see a snare then immediately leave the area. This may happen a few times. Then suddenly for some reason they cannot resist . It appears they lose all caution and attack the bait. That's when I catch several at once on a bait.
I have refusals too on trails where there are no baits. I think some individual coyotes and fox too are wised up to snares and will avoid them.
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Post by hdwolfer on Dec 29, 2006 20:20:20 GMT -6
I bet a large percentage had stinger springs on them. Seen it alot with that choke spring.
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Post by Bristleback on Dec 29, 2006 22:49:59 GMT -6
Stef, are you breaking up the snare from both sides of the trail, remmember you don't have to break up the snare right directly at the snare you can do it a foot or two "before" the snare.
Also, are you "coloring" your snares in anyway other than a light boil with will turn the cable a dull gray??
Sure those Stingers take a bit more blending, seconds, but the upside to me is well worth it, especially in areas I'd never before believed you could snare a coyote.
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Post by musher on Dec 30, 2006 5:48:48 GMT -6
Stef: I wouldn't over analyze it. You've snared tons and you'll snare lots more.
Paying a little more attention to what the guys are saying isn't a bad thing. Stingers do stand out. Maybe you are leaving tracks. It is possible that something smelled up your wire. BUT you could also be dealing with a few yotes that saw stingers work previously and are a little shy.
I'd leave everything exactly as it is. I might set a few more in the neighbourhood! Maybe a foothold too. ;D
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Post by irnhdmike on Dec 30, 2006 9:10:04 GMT -6
Stick out a couple of new stupid snares. The coyotes will run around worring about them and get caught in the ones already there.
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Post by Stef on Dec 30, 2006 10:47:52 GMT -6
No, no paint... Just dull gray and waxed the whole thing I try, when possible to set my snares where there's lot of little branches that's exactly what I do all the time... BTW good tip for coyote snaring! . Yep ;D That's what I did but you know.... its frustrating... all in the same day on different farms. Some places now need a foothold cure ;D Not enough snow now for making snow sets and dirt sets are hard and time consuming to make there's 3 inches of ice under the snow on top of the earth if there wasn't that thick ice... it would be real easy blending traps with grass, dirt or wathever but you know...its not like that.......Long range forecast predicted some rain the 2 next week-end...LoL Snowing now but we'll be lucky if we get an inch...LoL What a weird winter Anyway, I'm going to check a few fisher sets this afternoon and I'm going to put some dirt sets on 1 farm and be back fleshing...LoL That's exactly what I did and do all the time. I just cross my fingers now to get rid of these couple shy ones Stef
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Post by bobwendt on Dec 30, 2006 11:29:02 GMT -6
prolly catch them in the dumb snares.
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Post by musher on Dec 30, 2006 11:38:06 GMT -6
Of course it's frustrating! If it was pick your nose easy, we wouldn't be talking trapping all the time. ;D (There probably is a "pick your nose" website somewhere but I don't want to know. )
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Post by bobwendt on Dec 30, 2006 12:59:17 GMT -6
there is, it`s the one with the tan background. I about guarantee there is a post on belly button lint, nose picking or some broad looking for a man on that site right now, probably all the above.
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Post by Stef on Jan 1, 2007 9:17:19 GMT -6
Could kill 1 of those " suckers " who were refusing snares. Nailed that pretty good size male coyote in 2 new snares I had set 3 days ago. Killed him in a 1/16th Stinger snare. Cable was damaged but was still good to hold a couple more pounds or chewing...LoL I had refusals again yesterday on some other farms I checked.... I'm sure that the moon and the pressure I put on them there doesn't help but I'll get them soon or later....no big deal ;D Stef
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Post by irnhdmike on Jan 2, 2007 22:04:04 GMT -6
Gotta be the damn moon. Had a new bunch show up at one of my spots today. Avoided any snares they came to. Man did they ever make a pile of tracks on the roads.
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Post by Hornhunter on Jan 3, 2007 20:24:49 GMT -6
I've always wondered about the wind rocking that round loop, if that don't cause refusals. I was covering the cam lock and choke spring with a couple pieces of x-mas garland. The kind that looks like fir boughs. Each piece unraveled to be about 6in. long and has a support wire hidden in the middle. Nice green color that blended in with the softwood real well.
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