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Post by Clyde Isaak on Dec 20, 2006 20:06:25 GMT -6
For those of you interested in seeing a skunk dispatched, using a home-made syringe pole with accetone, I had my son video me dispatching a skunk. We set it up so it would show the actual time it took to dispatch the skunk. As you can see the dispatch is very quick and humane. I used an old segmented alluminum tent pole for my syring pole. It folds up nice and I keep it in a piece of poly pipe. I attached the syring by cutting 2 slots in the end of the pole, then cut off the ring end of the syringe plunger. The plunger then fits snuggly into the slots I made in the alluminum pipe. I did add a few wraps of black electrical tape to the pipe and end of the plunger to make it more secure. The clip doesn't have sound because it was very windy that day and we couldn't avoid the wind noise, so we just left the sound off. It is pretty self-explanitory and shows from the time I get out of the pick-up to the time I take the skunk out of the trap. Less than 3 minutes total. You can check it out by clinking on the following www.adamisaak.org/skunk
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Post by tmalone on Dec 20, 2006 21:08:53 GMT -6
Hey, that was great , thanks for sharing.
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Post by Rod17 on Dec 20, 2006 21:17:01 GMT -6
excellent!!
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Post by raynard on Dec 20, 2006 23:07:46 GMT -6
Very nicely done.
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Post by spiderclawz on Dec 21, 2006 12:02:00 GMT -6
That is nice to see in action. Your siringe is larger and holds more actone than the one I use. That would probably be benificial as I'm always needing a second dose. Nice video clip.
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Post by sbhooper on Dec 21, 2006 15:34:24 GMT -6
That was really great. I have never seen that done before, only read about it.
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Post by Clyde Isaak on Dec 21, 2006 17:31:16 GMT -6
Glad you guys found it informative and thanks for the comments.
spiderclawz - I started ut using a smaller syringe because I read that 10 cc's was enough to kill the skunk but ran into the problems you mentioned so I just went to a bigger syringe and try to inject as much as I can to start with. Accitone is cheap. The first skunk I ever poled I just gave it the first syring and put it into the pick-up, one or two stops later I noticed the heart was still beating on the skunk, so now I allways check to see if the heart is beating after it becomes unconsious and will give it the second dose in the heart area to stop it. Very effective.
Greenhorn
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Post by maka on Dec 21, 2006 20:04:52 GMT -6
When I play it it will only play up to you grabbing the green thing out of the back
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Post by magnus on Dec 21, 2006 20:43:08 GMT -6
WHY do the injection ... does it keep them from spraying?
WHERE in their body do you inject them?
Finally, what gauge and how long of a needle do you use?
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Post by David Kuhlmann on Dec 21, 2006 20:52:25 GMT -6
Maka, Give it some more time. It should go.. Greenhorn. Thank you for posting this. I started dispatching skunks, & badgers this way this year & i love it. Very nice when selling for taxi purpose's... I also have only been using a 12cc syringe & many times have had to give the 2nd dose. I need to run to the vet clinic for some bigger needles thow as the ones i'm using bend/break too easy as it takes so much pressure to inject.. Again, thanks for sharing.. David
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Post by Clyde Isaak on Dec 21, 2006 20:54:41 GMT -6
maka - I don't know why it isn't playing for you. Do you have dial-up internet by chance? The reason I ask is that it is set up to download as you watch it and with a slow dial-up internet service it may not be downloading fast enough. You can try leaving it on and see if it continues, if not, I will talk to my son about it and maybe he will know what is the problem.
magnus - yes I inject them so they do not spray. I skin and put up my skunks and collect the essance. Even if you didn't want to collect the essance, as that is the only part of process that smells, it is a great way to dispatch without the stink. You can then cut out the the essance sacks and you can skin the skunk without any fear of releasing any musk. I use the heaviest needle my farm-supply store carries. I believe it is 12 gauge and I think they are 1 1/2 inches long.
Greenhorn
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Post by maka on Dec 21, 2006 21:48:33 GMT -6
If anybody can e-mail this video I would be very greatful.
foodgasm@sympatico.ca
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Post by hunterchub on Dec 21, 2006 22:49:43 GMT -6
Its a little difficult for me to see where you inject your skunks. Where do you inject them?
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Post by Clyde Isaak on Dec 22, 2006 7:16:24 GMT -6
maka - the way the video clip is set up I don't think it can be e-mailed or downloaded onto your hard drive. It can only be viewed. I will talk to my son about it when he gets home for Christmas. I could have him put it on a CD or DVD and mail it to you if you are interested. I don't kow what it costs to mail something to Canada but I could find out.
hunterchub - I inject them into the chest right beside the sternem, between the ribs or just above the sternum and inject down into the lung area. You just try to not hit bone and you need to get the accitone into the heart/lung area. I don't try to inject from the side because it caused to many problems with the skunk moving and bending needles or breaking off the syringe. Doing it head-on allows me greater control of the skunk once I start injecting it.
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Post by Steve Gappa on Dec 22, 2006 8:27:37 GMT -6
very informative! Thanks for taking the time and effort to do this.
I had a guy that was going to demonstrate this live last summer, but you do it better.... ;D
for sure, no more excuses for us. we get 20-30 skunks a year, and its time to use the resource.
2 questions- 1) you ae just getting the skunk to lift his head, and then injected exactly where?
2) you gave it another shot- standard or unusual?
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Post by hunterchub on Dec 22, 2006 13:23:12 GMT -6
Thanks Greenhorn. Thats exactly why I asked the question. I saw you were injecting in the front. I have been doing it from the side with some mishaps, LOL.
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Post by Clyde Isaak on Dec 22, 2006 18:39:47 GMT -6
Steve - I just tip it's head up with the needle and try to stick it just above the sternum down into the lung area. Sometimes I will go between the sternum and shoulder. Sometimes you have to try a couple different spots because you will hit bone and that will stop the needle. They have very little reaction when being stuck with the needle.
The do give the second shot on a regular basis. The first shot seems to shut down their lungs causing unconsioness quickly, but their heat will beat for quite some time, so I give the second shot close to the heart and that will shut the heart down real fast.
Greenhorn
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Post by Clyde Isaak on Dec 24, 2006 11:21:51 GMT -6
unterchub - The thing I have found is you have to have some control over the skunk when you are using a push-type syringe pole and that doing it straight on gives you much better control when they are on flat ground. Just manipulate them to the end of the chain with the needle in thier chest and then push the pole to depress the syringe. Back foot caught skunks can be trickier because they will start turning when you stick thier chest and try pushing the syringe pole to depress it. I have video footage of dispacting a back foot caught one that was caught in a step-down set and I did about a complete circle with the needle in its chest manipulating it into the shallow step-down hole so it would stop turning and I was able to push hard enough to depress the syringe. It is amazing how much you can manipulate them but you do need to watch their actions closely. With the amount of interest in seeing and learning this type of skunk dispatch, I'm thinking I should shoot some more footage and put out a short syringe-pole dispatch video.
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Post by wolfer on Dec 25, 2006 23:01:34 GMT -6
Greenhorn,
this is an excellant well done little video.
thank you!
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Post by JLDakota on Dec 26, 2006 10:00:32 GMT -6
For those planning or thinking about making a skunk killer stick, you might consider the option of building a killer stick that attaches the syringe solid to the conduit or pvc pipe. A long wooden dowel is run down the middle of the conduit or pvc and then attached/secured to the plunger on the syringe. Dowel sticks out the end of the "stick" several inches. Once the needle is inserted in entry point of choice which requires minimal effort, the dowel is manually pushed in emptying the syringe with little effort and no pushing around or maneuvering of the skunk. Some skunks don't want to be pushed around but most, if not aggitated will accept the needle easily. Have used both ways and personally find manually pushing the plunger is easier, quicker and less hassle for me either in cage caught or foot holds then pushing the "stick" in them to empty the syringe. JL
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