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Post by tonymalone on Dec 27, 2006 10:51:20 GMT -6
I know there are lots of places to buy snares but where can a fellow get snares set up for the" live market"? and what do you ask for, and how do you anchour them w/ rebar?
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Post by bobwendt on Dec 27, 2006 11:41:59 GMT -6
1/8th inch, 6 and 1/2 feet, double stake ring and a stop at 9". don`t set if entanglement is even remotely possible. no swivel needed.
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Post by tonymalone on Dec 27, 2006 12:30:02 GMT -6
what type lock do you prefer?
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Post by bobwendt on Dec 27, 2006 12:45:26 GMT -6
simple heavy duty "L" beaver drowner lock. the opposite of what the fur dead guys want.
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Post by robertw on Dec 27, 2006 13:57:54 GMT -6
Bob are you ever going to try some 1x19 cable? You can drop one size and still reliably hold live coyote with no problem. The smoother 1x 19 cable also allows most locks to fail (some what) making it a superb cable for live catch snares.
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Post by bobwendt on Dec 27, 2006 15:41:59 GMT -6
I`m so happy with the 1/8th, just never felt anything else could please me more. so quit when I got to where I wanted to be. keep in mind my indiana dogs are rougher and bigger than mo. or western stuff.
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Post by robertw on Dec 27, 2006 19:13:34 GMT -6
Keep in mind that 1x19 is tougher (and smoother) than your 7x7.
Guess I'll have to donate a few to you sometime to get you to use something "better" than your using now.
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Post by bobwendt on Dec 28, 2006 7:24:46 GMT -6
my wife is the best woman I could find, so I quit looking any further. lol, well. bwahahaha. sorry, it just hit me I might be onto something here.
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Post by tonymalone on Dec 28, 2006 7:55:48 GMT -6
Bob not sure if this is allowed on here, if not just ignore it, or someone let me know and I will delete it imediately, but do you sale snares ready to go if so let me know how to contact you.
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Post by bobwendt on Dec 28, 2006 9:03:46 GMT -6
no I don`t sell snasres, but I believe any dealer can custom make or order any kind or size you want.
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Dec 29, 2006 11:05:42 GMT -6
Bob Robertw is right the 1x19 is far greater than 7x7 when it comes to chewing and also relaxing more with the type of locks you use. I use 5/64th's 1x19 mainstay for coyotes even though I set up for dead, the live ones can;t get through this cable near as easy as 7x7 and have very,very few ever chew out.
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Post by bobwendt on Dec 29, 2006 12:15:11 GMT -6
"few" chew outs? how about NEVER. that is my record to date with 1/8th. never, that is a pretty encompasing word and record to match by any size cable when intentionally setting so everyonme is alive, i.e. has all night to do his best in the nibble department..
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Dec 29, 2006 14:15:51 GMT -6
Bob that is because your on a 24hr max check! If they can't get through the 1x19 at day 2 or 3 then why not drop in size? I know from using 7x7 3/32nd day 2 and 3 have chewed out with little problems, that cable sperates far easier than 1x19. You can drop down and have a less visable snare for sure and chew outs I guess as you put it will be "never" any how.
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Post by trapperjoemo on Dec 29, 2006 21:34:56 GMT -6
I caught two coyotes today in 1X19, 3/32" cable restraints. Neither one broke A single strand of this cable. One old mangy male had tangled around the #9 support wire. He twisted the cable into so many knots his chin was 6" off the ground. He was bound-up so tight he had started twisting the cable stake (cable). I like this stiff, loaded cable!
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Post by bobwendt on Dec 30, 2006 6:25:53 GMT -6
I know they can chew 3/32 7 by 7 in half and escape in just an hr or two. the last 14 coyotes I snared in 3/32 in my life , exactly half (7) chewed out on 5 a.m. cks. never went less than 1/8th ever again and that was 15 years ago or more. and never lost another. I have seen no dis advantage in the big cable everyone seems to disdain, none at all. let me state again, back east here I am working with sometimes twice the animal you more westerly guys are taking. the 25-30 lb animals here are just late litter pups. everyone else is bad mamajamas and nasty huge dudes
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Post by bobwendt on Dec 30, 2006 6:31:58 GMT -6
I had one red fox chew a 3/32 in two and later re snared the poor guy about 2 miles away ( that alone was interesting- the 2 miles),anyway, the second time he made no ring at all and immediatly started chewing and was down to a thread or two of having TWO snares hanging off him. one coyote I snared twice within 10 feet, but once in august and again in november. he was messed up real bad as I had hipped him the first time. it wasn`t pretty. seeing what an animal goes thru after carrying a snare, believe me , you`d rather miss one than have it on you that you had one get away carrying a snare. you wouldn`t do your worst enemy that way. near turned my stomach and nothing much bothers me anymore. so here I am all 1/8th and no worries and a smooth stomach.
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Post by Bob Jameson on Dec 30, 2006 8:17:57 GMT -6
As you know bob I have used 1/8 7x7 snares for some time as you have and they have been my choice for the same reasons on coyotes. I have seen and worked a little with the 1/19 and see how it ( may ) be a good live coyote snare also. I just dont have enough experience with it to go to them all the way just yet. On kill snares I think they would be the ticket. The 1/8 gives a bit more surface area also making for a little easier entanglement release from the lock and hair it seems as well.
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Post by bobwendt on Dec 30, 2006 8:24:15 GMT -6
bob j. been watching the weather? no hurry to leave west . up to 8" rain in my area so far and still raging. no rain since sept. out there. I pack the truck and trailor and ready to roll and they get 6 months worth in 24 hrs and not done yet. it`s not funny anymore. I think I am cursed.
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Post by Bob Jameson on Dec 30, 2006 13:23:02 GMT -6
Yes I have been watching the forecast bob w.and have made some calls out there. I am about ready to roll myself. Got new trailor tires today but still haveing an issue with the lites. Grrrr. I will be ready and packed by monday so will have to monitor the rain/snow and make the call then as to when to leave.Doesnt look promising.
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Post by trapperjoemo on Dec 30, 2006 14:36:39 GMT -6
Bob J. Funny you should mention trouble with trailer lights. When I was traveling, the lights were always a headache just before I hit the road. My first step now with ANY trailer light problem is to CHECK THE GROUND CONNECTION ! For me that has ended up being the problem 99% of the time. Rarely was it a bulb etc... Try to connect the ground up (in) the harness from truck to trailer. Don`t depend on the trailer ball to make the ground connection. They rust, and don`t work sometimes untill you get many miles down the road. lol
Good Luck
Joe
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