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Post by trappnman on Dec 3, 2006 10:03:57 GMT -6
this was considered too inaprropriate to be discussed somewhere else.
the question:
OK, I am new to using traps. I use snares, so I don't know the best way to dispatch an animal caught in a foot hold type trap.
Me? I shoot them betwen the eyes and an inch or so up. Puts them down quick and clean.
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Post by Dhat on Dec 3, 2006 10:13:20 GMT -6
I usually shoot behind the shoulder dont like all the bleeding from head shots.
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Post by trappnman on Dec 3, 2006 10:16:07 GMT -6
The problem I have with behind the shoulder is it often takes me more than one shot. I've tried all the different bullets recommended , but still have the same results.
Blood- a head shot one might bleed more at the set, but I found the body shot ones to bleed more when skinning, and since its further up on the body, I have to deal with it longer.
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Post by Rod17 on Dec 3, 2006 10:36:14 GMT -6
I also shoot them in the head. For most land animals the mass of their brain is directly underneath the ears, (they lack the large frontal cortex of primates), so I aim just under the ear and try to get the bullet to pass ear-to-ear. I use .22 shorts or CB. Still bleeds alot but is a very quick dispatch. Lung shots will bleed as much than head shots.
For those that are not old enough to carry a rifle, the new barrel-break pellet rifles have sufficient velocity to do the job. I shot a large coon yesterday (was in a snare) with my .177 pellet rifle and he was dead in 30 secs. However, with pellet rifles, shot placement is much more important.
good luck
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Post by musher on Dec 3, 2006 11:16:27 GMT -6
Hal has a thread on lung shooting on his site. There's a good pic showing the heart and lungs. They ain't positioned like a deer's.
I shoot the big stuff between the eyes. Usually the bullet goes into their neck and stays there. The .22 bullet often depends what's in my pockets. This year it was Vipers.
Tman: Is that on a trapping site or a selling trapping stuff site? ;D
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Post by Mike Barcaskey on Dec 3, 2006 12:04:31 GMT -6
the only thing I shoot is coyotes, everything else (yea, what else is there?) gets the bop and stomp. I shoot a yote last year straight on, under the chin. The .22 bullet went down the neck a ways and stopped. She dropped dead and no blood skinning. Wasn't planning on it, but it worked well. I'm looking forward to trying that shoot again this year. Ain't got any yotes yet.
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Post by foxtrapperwoman on Dec 3, 2006 14:40:39 GMT -6
Don't shoot anything in the head and then list it for sale at taxinet LOL, tough crowd there. Personally I don't mind repairing a teeny weeny hole in the forehead.
1 time I shot a coon in the lungs but only because it was tangled up on a log with brambles and was the only kill shot I could do on it since I wasn't about to go into the brambles. The coon squalled and squalled, what noise, I hated it. I had to chest shoot a fox that was on a drag too, it too got into some thick junk, low bush with brambles , and I couldn't get a bead on its head. I hate drags. At least a fox goes right down, it didn't make any noise.
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Post by NattyBumpo on Dec 3, 2006 15:24:56 GMT -6
Most of the time I bonk them on top of the head with a small aluminum baseball bat my boy had when he was in little league.
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Post by foxtail on Dec 3, 2006 15:38:13 GMT -6
I shoot 99.9% of what is still alive.
The rest gets the bop and drop.
I think I read it from Bob.
I gave a coon I found alive on the side of the road the bop and drop the other day.
I even have a video I made of a clean headshot on a coon.
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Post by haggis on Dec 3, 2006 15:43:52 GMT -6
It always seemed to me that a fox rapped across the nose, and then chest stomped bled nearly as much as head shot, but head shot is quicker.
Reusing skinging gloves, the thin use 'em once and toss kind, pulled up over the head (the critter's head) will catch most of the blood, or at least confine it to the head region.
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Post by Bob Jameson on Dec 3, 2006 15:44:23 GMT -6
Steve I have using a 22 cal. bullet called a Quik-Shok. This is a cartridge that many do not know about or have used much.It has trememdous shocking ability and splits into 3 segments on impact with rarely ever an exit wound from shrapnel in the heart lung area. No riccochet worries due to its fragmentation.
My coyotes go down like a hammer hit them and expire very quickly if hit correctly. Very little bleeding. These are dispatched with a pistol. Rifles really hit hard with this cartridge. Have killed many on the trapline with a rifle shot under 50 yards with the same results.
Upon removing from the trap I roll up one sheet of blue paper shop towel and push it back into the mouth/throat and push two small rolls of the same paper into each nostril prior to moving the animal. This stops any bleeding during skinning and keeps my truck less messy. If the entry bleeds a little I roll a small piece of the same material and insert into the small hole.
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Post by woodie on Dec 3, 2006 16:53:10 GMT -6
I use the club for most,the noose to choke cats.If I need to shoot a yote,I usually take them out of the trap and move them away from the set before shooting.Somebody on here told about the whack to the base of the throat,that seems to be working pretty good this year. Mike
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Post by bobwendt on Dec 3, 2006 16:57:49 GMT -6
humanes tops, visually nice no- massive damage to the head via blow, oer ruptured lungs/heart/major vessels from chestcrushing. fox, I break their necks by hand, possum I break their necks by r-rod and pull up on tail, coon 220 on head and the trick is a strong one and right behind the ears and pull forward as far as it will go and parallel to the ground , coyote massive explosive single chest stomp, badgers and skunks lethal chest injection. all take practice but are the ultimate in humaneness, speed, and lack of blood and gore
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Post by Ridgerunner on Dec 3, 2006 16:58:58 GMT -6
Coyotes, Fox, and Coon ... Between the eyes and slightly up with a .22 short or CB. Never had any problems.
Cats, Choke pole.
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Post by blakcoyote on Dec 3, 2006 17:24:46 GMT -6
I agree with the head shots on coyotes.I hang them by a back foot when they get home,and let them drain more.I have found when shooting them in the lungs,they really make a mess when the hide is being pulled over the shoulder.Fox,I give them a tap to the nose w/ a rebar stake,then break there neck,like I learn when pelting fox on the fur farm,no blood at all.
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Post by redcoyote on Dec 3, 2006 19:09:18 GMT -6
catch pole everything out of trap circle and give good stomp behind shoulder, no blood, no mess, quick
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Post by dj88ryr on Dec 3, 2006 20:11:24 GMT -6
I have always used a .22 short, between the eyes and up an inch or so, directed down at toward the neck, no exit wound, a little bloody on coon, but fox and coyotes, seem to be no problem, they go right down, very little theatrics. I also carry Q-tips and cotton balls, I insert some cotton and the Q-tip in the entry hole, it keeps everything nice and tidy.
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Post by edge on Dec 3, 2006 20:47:30 GMT -6
I use a grub hoe handle for fur,choke cats and ferals,summer stuff gets guaged.
Edge
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Post by dj88ryr on Dec 3, 2006 21:40:06 GMT -6
I use a grub hoe handle for fur,choke cats and ferals,summer stuff gets guaged. Edge You animal you.... ;D ;D
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Post by edge on Dec 3, 2006 21:49:25 GMT -6
**You animal you.... **
Well,I got 2 kids,.22 shells are hard to come by in my house.......thus far they have no immediate interest in the 12 guage.......except that they think it should have a laser sight.....I love those kids.
Edge
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