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Post by td on Oct 3, 2005 7:42:12 GMT -6
He's probably just trying to sell more pee.lol When I first trapped coyotes, I didn't have any pee. We bought fur, so I cut open a bunch of coyotes. Quickly learned to check only the shot ones. Most or nearly all the trapped ones were empty. Cats are usually full. Don't use coon pee. I would guess both cat and coon pee little or none at all after caught. Most of the coyotes I come up on have either already emptied out or do so when I pull up. They don't have very good aiming ability when excited.
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Post by bobwendt on Oct 3, 2005 8:14:34 GMT -6
the cats never pee out until you put them in the backseat on sub zero days ,to prevent freezing hard as a rock while running the rest of the line, lol. I now express all bladders manually on the tailgait prior to them relieving themselves in the truck after death. I don`t think cats pee at all in the trap as their bladders are always full, sometimes tremendous quantities.
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Post by td on Oct 3, 2005 8:25:16 GMT -6
Hear that on being careful w/the cat pee. I always try to keep rear end elevated after dispatch and while skinning. All my pictures are w/the cats held by the hind legs. Is there a trick to getting all the pee out before skinning? I know just holding them up by the front legs, some or a lot will usually come out.
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Post by bobwendt on Oct 3, 2005 8:42:45 GMT -6
I press with my fingers and hand on the bladder while holding the pee bottle up to the pee hole. lay on their side on the tail gate and easy while fresh and limp before rigor mortis sets in.
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Post by thefoxtrapper on Oct 3, 2005 9:03:20 GMT -6
nearly all fox caught pee all over the place and usually dump too, so area reeks of fox, just remake set and small dab of lure down the hole or on object, i mean it smell so bad of fox, i would think adding urine would be wasting....just what i think on most remakes, w
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Post by trappnman on Oct 3, 2005 10:16:00 GMT -6
unless you find it increases catches on yotes at remakes- then not using it is a waste...
which brings up the old queston- does store bought urine smell like "real" fox urine to a canine?
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Post by wheelie on Oct 3, 2005 15:36:59 GMT -6
Some do better than others..................lol
Just got a report on a lab that has been doing a fox/coon/crop damage study over the last year.................in one test they analized the pee of several wild caught fox (that they later released that day). They found a wild red fox pee is high in protien, etc.........................a trapper that was involved with catching the critters asked if they would do the same test on store bought pee (from different dealers, so he would know who had pee like what the wild foxs were).............well the test results were very interesting.........ONE was compairable (protien content etc.) but the others were far from close to fox in the wild...........many results came back high in fiber, low in protien,etc.
From this test.......I know that good pee is hard to find (even from top dealers).......................one of the tests run on a dealers fox pee was discribed as watered down manure (with test results to prove it).
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