Droppings at a set

[conibear]

Just wondering if you guys use alot of droppings at your sets or do you just use them after a catch or use them at flat sets just wondering, would like to know what to do with them after a catch. And cats also

[bobwendt]

if I see a handy one, yes, but won`t haul around or go to any trouble. you`ll think I`m pulling your leg, but more times than not I pick my spot from way off and pull up , get out and bend over and there lies a turd with in inchs of my mile off picked spot. maybe I have poop radar. pretty good at seeing poopy people from a distance and at a glance too, lolo

[vttrapper]

Same as Doctor Bob except for the poopy radar, usually i find out after the fact.

frank

[trappincoyotes39]

Droppings can be a confidance builder in coyote sets, I use them if there or save some from a fresh caught coyote when I check them for being bred I'll squeeze out the intestine and keep them in a tupperware container to be used that day on other sets, males too, but only durring the spring and ealry summer, I like to add urine or gland lure to them.

As Bob stated if your on location you find them there, but summertime they don't last long with all the fire ants and other bugs in the area.

[bobwendt]

tupperware, I`m an old man and you are scaring me!

[trappnman]

I used to save them, pick them up from around sets- but now I no longer bother. I figure having multiple scats around a set such as in a remake, just creates more interest in the set. Once in a while is a "nice" one at the set, I'll use it as a jaw guard.

[conibear]

Trapnman maybe a stupid question but is scat considered some sort of gland/secretion when used at a set. Since it comes out of the same end we cut out for gland lure? Just wondering ?

[Maineman]

If I have one I'll use it as a guide but I don't go out of my way to find or save them...

[trappnman]

of course scat is a gland type of an attractant- at least when fresh.

How long it stays that way, is anyones guess.

The best part (well, not the best but an interesting part) of my work with the dnr was having the time to really look at things. One thing that I really found out- was how quickly a fresh dropping became an "old" dropping.

Otter esp- you would find an overnight pile of scat so fresh it glistened and was almost steaming. The next day...it looked recent. 2-3 days later- it looked like it was there several months. A week or so, with normal weather, it looked like it was there a 100 years and soon it was gone.

Same with coyotes but not as dramatically. I typical fall weather, a fresh overnight scat would reach that old, white, dried out stage i just a few days.

Really opened my eyes- what I had thought previously was "old, old" scat...probally was less than a week old.

Now- just about any scat I find, I consider recent.

[bobwendt]

I cover "turdology" at length in the new fox dvd, but in a nutshell, in arid windy hot summer conditions of the west, a fresh poo can look white as snow and crumbly in 8 hrs of daylight.

[trappnman]

I've seen that happen by the next day Bob. And if I wouldn't have seen it, I would never have believed it. It was right on the middle of a trail I had made to check an otter set. Black and fresh- I looked around to see if I could see him it looked that recent.

Next day- white, dry, crumbly. And this weather was dry and warm- but not excessively so. Windy though.

I looked at that- and luckily Lori saw it also- and remarked at all the "old" scat I used to see.

Before that- would see a white, dried out one, and assumed it was there for weeks if not months.

Since then, anything with form to it is considered recent.

[bobwendt]

I snuck up there and put that 1 year old turd there, took the fresh one and hid it , just to fool with your head.

[trappnman]

Could have been "old angel trick"

I've mentioned this before..... saw an old movie where only 1 man could see and hear this angle that came back for whatever reason- I just saw this 5 minutes of the show. Anyways, the angel and man were in an office standing by a desk. A man at the desk, put his pen down, bent over to look in his bottom file drawer, and the angel took the pen and put it in his pocket. The man at the desk striaghtened up, and looked all over for his pen. Finally, he bent back down to look in the drawer, and the angel replaced the pen in the exact spot.

The man sat back up- saw his pen and did a doubletake.

"Old angel trick" the angel told the man that could see him...

so maybe...old angel trick LOL

[Rob220swift]

I'm all pooped out but I will try to slightly re-direct this topic. Bobcat toilets. Do you think you can establish one by collecting turds and placing in an area where cats regularly travel? I would guess urine would be added to the spot also.

[trappnman]

well, you can do it with otter.