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Post by bobwendt on Feb 20, 2005 8:02:27 GMT -6
I have about 15 gallons of real winter collected dark potent meat fed bobcat pee and will have likely near 10 gallons of rendered skunk fat again this year. I don`t want to ship the pee by the gallon, but would deliver to the nta this summer, same on the skunk fat. Either item $50 a gallon unless a dealer is interested in the whole lot, and then I`d work with you some. Likely have a good bit of coyote pee extra this year too, by the barrel or 5 gallon bucket only, no shipping, so basically limited to dealers only. red fox I am sold out already. I`m sharing a booth with rich kasper (rk660) so will be easy to find.
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Post by bobwendt on Feb 25, 2005 15:20:18 GMT -6
you guys! Actually I traded that truck last october on a very low humidity dry hot day so it didfn`t look too odd when I delivered the trade with windows wide open. Kind of a story on it too. (doesn`t bob always have a story?) well I cleaned all my junk out even the mummified apples under the seat. About 3 days later I remember oh crap, I left my .38 snub nose in between the drivers seat and the console. I call the dealer and the truck is in florida already! He`s all worried some kid may get it and shoot himself and goes bonkers calling down there. They find it, loaded (what the heck good is an empty gun?) and overnight the thing back. I go in to pick it up the next day and he hands it to me with one finger and his thumb on the tippity tip of the grip, like its a turd or it will spontaniously discharge. Well, now you know where my gun is hid and to not road rage me. I hear the cat migration into florida was tremendous this winter.
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Post by Edge on Feb 25, 2005 17:06:45 GMT -6
**and he hands it to me with one finger and his thumb on the tippity tip of the grip, like its a turd or it will spontaniously discharge. **
That is LMAO funny!!
A cop wanted to see mine once,I disassembled it before I handed it to him(about 1 sec)............he did the fingertip grip thruout the whole inspection..............then says,"That was pretty cool......"
Edge
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Post by lynxcat on Apr 27, 2005 17:22:37 GMT -6
I can see $50/gal for the rendered....but $50 for cat pee!!! OUCH....Me thinks you be dippin your stogies in that stuff and smokin it !!! GLAD I've got a source for GOOD catty pee for $30/gal...limited quantity(I get it all...) ..it's who ya know......KUDDO'S for Bob!!!  |
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Post by bobwendt on May 1, 2005 7:10:00 GMT -6
lynx, cage up a cat and see how long it takes to get a gallon of pee. It will be a real eye opener for you as to what most folks sell labeled as cat pee. you can figure about a pint/week on a cat vs a fox at 1 qt/week and a coyote at a gallon/10 days. You do the math on feed/labor/quality etc.
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Post by bobwendt on May 1, 2005 7:12:51 GMT -6
z, missed your post, yes have some still and will never collect again even at 50 bucks a gallon, so if you want some let me know. I won`t ship pee anywhere but I am sure we can arrange a go between or meet up somewhere.
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Post by lynxcat on May 1, 2005 8:14:27 GMT -6
Bob..NOT knocking you at all...as I said Kuddo's to you!!! GOOD cat pee's EXTREMELY hard to get...period I got lucky and hooked up with a guy who raises cats...and it IS a slow process for sure ....I just "like" all those guys getting down on their knee's and "takin turns"...puts a BIG grin on my face...lol ;D On the plusssss side...ya gotta pay...what ya gotta pay for the good stuff.
later
lynx
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Post by bobwendt on May 1, 2005 10:20:36 GMT -6
lynx, if he is "raising " cats he can`t feed straight meat as it is so unbalanced it screws up reproduction. that fur ranch pee isn`t the same as a pure meat diet pee. about 1/2 strength. his pee is a by-product, where as meat pee is a primary product and no concerns about reproduction as they all get skinned come late winter. If you ever get back this way come give it the sniff test, best done sitting down.
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Post by lynxcat on May 1, 2005 17:55:26 GMT -6
Bob...I'm "ashamed" of your response...basically stating that GOOD cat pee is 100% meat fed...THAT in fact states that pee from a cat caught in the wild is NOT as good as yours...Ever look in a stomach or such...there isnt a cat/dog/fox out there in the wild that's 100% meat fed....and NO the guy does not "farm them"...he's got them pen'd and does NOT breed them...and NO he pee's NOT 100% natural pee...it's JUST LIKE YOURS... ;D
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Post by bobwendt on May 1, 2005 18:37:56 GMT -6
meat fed is more attractive than "natural fed". If he feeds all meat and you can get it for 30 bucks a gallon and he is not watering it, by all means, buy it! Personally, I wouldn`t collect pee off a cat for 2 months (8 weeks at 1 pint/week), take off the cost of freezers, meat, labor scraping troughs and straining daily for that 2 months and sell it for 30 bucks. bluntly, no one would. I`ll not do it at all in the future for even the 50 bucks. add 2 and 2 lynx, it doesn`t equal 1 and 1/2. I`m not ashamed of my responce, why should I be?
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Post by bobwendt on May 1, 2005 18:41:48 GMT -6
meat fed vs natural is like silicone vs natural. the silicine gets first looks everytime, same deal with the "un-natural" meat fed.
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Post by lynxcat on May 2, 2005 7:32:13 GMT -6
Silicone may LOOK better...but in a "hands on" situation...I'll take natural ANY DAY!!!....You can have the fake chit anyday...All I know is this guy has over a dozen cats....I buy my urine..AND a tub or two of cat turds....and it "dont get no better" than what he has...SUPER catty urine..I'm sure he probably feeds them 100% meat...or close to it...but THEN on the negative side....those who feed 100% meat with NO OTHER suplementation are NOT taking care of their cats properly either..HELLO!!! I'm NOT knocking you getting your price Bob....heck if a guy can get $200 out of a tree...good prices for Kansas cats......"YOU GO GIRL"...oh...sorry...forgot you dont do roids.. ;D
I DONT use cat urine straight anyhow...I mix it with good cured cat glands....bout the best cat lure out there..I may not catch the #'s that you do in cats...but then again....I'm in a state with a MUCH lower cat density....I only caught 35 this year...but that # puts me in the top few in the state....given an area with a QUANTITY of cats...they'd be a LOT easier....like catching rats or mice...quick...easy...and LOTS of them.
Like I said Bob...put YOU as a guinea pig...being a body builder/sculpter...WHAT would happen to YOU if you ate NOTHING but meat for even a couple months(no suplements OR vit's..)...
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Post by bobwendt on May 2, 2005 10:02:29 GMT -6
I only collect dec,jan and feb and then knock them in the head and skin out. no mistreatment on meat only for that short time period. Long term they would get ricketts and burned out kidneys from too much nitrogen going thru, but that is what makes the pure meat fed so super. In the u.s. we raise pigs essentially in cages for life, keep cows in stantions, fur animals in isolation cages, chickens for egg production 6 to a 20" by 20" cage and the list goes on. So meat feeding urine animals for mans benefit ( better pee) is no different than any other agricultural pursuit. So this guy with a dozen cats grosses $6/day for the pee from those cats and then takes out the cost of cages, meat, vaccinations and worming, freezers, jugs, his labor scraping troughs and straining daily and then pays taxes on the penny left. uh huh.
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Post by lynxcat on May 2, 2005 16:52:39 GMT -6
He is a "trapper" Bob...what did you "expect"  LOL...If truth were known...you probably either know him..or know OF him....all I know is the guy's got the best cat pee...THIS side of Bob Wendt's Mississippi... ;D Dont go trying to pedal your "flat cat" pee out here...we dont take "kindly" to you "funny" speakin folks OR flat tastin pee..... ;D I dont have to worry tooo much as I get 1/2-1 gallon USUALLY from the cats I get(also trade some other trappers outta their cat carcuss's for pee/glands etc)mix it all up....throw in 4oz of cat glands per gallon...now THAT is some WICKED PEE...just like your concentrated stuff....crack the bottle and people from 30' away know EXACTLY what it is....100% CAT...ON another note...bought some fox pee this year...didnt take a wiff...SEWER water all the way...got SCREWED on that one now didnt I??? ;D |
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Post by bobwendt on May 2, 2005 19:24:31 GMT -6
well you can`t lay that fox pee onto me! good cat pee is great, but nothing beats a cat footprint, truth be known. heck, trappers flood the market with $6-8 coon so I`ll conceed they would work cheap in the pee business too. his loss , your gain. I did get a gallon of super cat pee from ks trappers supply a couple years back, mut somthing or other was the owners name. He went to iraq and I guess still there so shut down his trappers supply biz in the meantime, and I only gave 30 bucks for that gallon. that was the only good cheap cat pee I ever found. Ordered from several big name dealers over the years and it was all crap, so finally figured I`d have to collect my own to get decent stuff. Maybe there are others out there have good stuff I don`t know about, the key words being I never could find out who they were that had the good stuff .
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Post by lynxcat on May 2, 2005 19:53:34 GMT -6
SOO true Bob...I thing his name was Matthew Heuwig..or similar...NICE guy...remember the LONG post in the past about GOOD pee...NOT an easy thing to get ESPECIALLY cats...
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Post by Steve Gappa on May 5, 2005 7:19:33 GMT -6
this turned into a discussion on the For Sale board- sopmething I don't want to see....but, since this discussion contained some interesting info- I edited, deleted, etc and brought it here. Remember- the "For Sale" isn't a discussion board...thanks...steve
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