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Post by walkercoonhunter(Aaron L.) on Nov 16, 2004 20:07:41 GMT -6
ok here is the question what is the advanteges of both and what is the down side to each? which is easier to bed your trap solid?which is better all around?i will be trapping in the freezing weather this year and am new to the frozen ground trapping..
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Post by Edge on Nov 16, 2004 20:29:58 GMT -6
Peat is readily available and comparatively cheap.It works like a charm in rain and or mud.
Waxed dirt may bed better,but it is more time consuming to make and prohibitively expensive to buy.
Another effective alternative is to completely wrap your trap in crumpled waxed paper;I have caught a boatload of fur doing that.Cheap,easy,no learning curve.
Edge
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Post by briankroberts on Nov 16, 2004 20:42:22 GMT -6
I use waxed dirt as the freezing weather starts and have good luck with it , I'm gonna give the peat moss a try sometime as I know there are plenty of guys catching Yotes with it, I just gotta get some and try it.....B.....
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Post by Edge on Nov 16, 2004 21:09:25 GMT -6
Brian,the decision for me was the weight;my hands are pretty bad and the peat is LIGHT as a feather...........now that I have given it a good test,i dont plan on using anymore waxed stuff.
Edge
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Post by Clefus on Nov 16, 2004 21:16:27 GMT -6
I like peat and cover with a little dry dirt...just enough to blend it in...other day had too much on and it rained/froze and I had to take the crust off... I wished I had made some waxed dirt to try..both for bedding and covering..  With the peat, I get the trap bedded solid, pull it out, and dust the bed with peat...this worked better for me than just cramming it into a bed of peat..then fill the trap in and somewhat pack it... |
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Post by Muskratman1 on Nov 17, 2004 18:42:58 GMT -6
Peat Moss - Like Edge said "It's light" and cost effective. Our weather in Southern MI is 40 during the day and 20 at night. Freeze thaw crap with snow or rain dusting every other day - being in the bananna belt isn't always a good thing. Peat makes things trapable 24/7, no pan covers and seldom blend w/ dirt, just a few grass clippings and away you go.
MM1
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Post by dj88ryr on Nov 17, 2004 18:46:21 GMT -6
I haven't tried peat much in the past, I have had a steady supply of anthill dirt which is somewhat freeze resistent. I still have plenty of anthill dirt, but I am going to give peat an honest try this season once the bad weather gets here.
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Post by ScottMc on Nov 17, 2004 19:20:26 GMT -6
Well, Edge told me in a post earlier about the Pete, and I can honestly say that we have had some rain, and snow, and some VERY hard freezes here, and I have not had 1 trap froze in. As a matter of fact, I acutally set a couple of my sets off just to make sure they would one morning when it was cold as a Well Diggers XXX, and they all fired like it was the middle of the summer. LOL
One thing I have noticed though, is when it has rained or there has been a good frost in the morning, and warm all day. When I check my traps at night, the dirt on top of the pete is usually dry, and all the dirt around it is wet. LOL>
Not sure if this is good or bad.
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Post by Edge on Nov 17, 2004 20:46:00 GMT -6
**Not sure if this is good or bad. **
Peat does have a tendancy to shed water;which gives the trap bed a bit of off-color;just blend it with scissored up grass clipping;even if you dont blenmd it;it is always best to have the trap working as opposed to a perfect looking set.Your set only has to be perfect for 1 coyote out of a hundred.SEED coyotes,LMAO!
Edge
The only trap I had freeze down this year was one where i was thinking"damn,forgot the peat;ahh,its early anyway.........."DUH.
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Post by chub618 on Nov 18, 2004 6:36:13 GMT -6
there are alot of different peat mosses out there, the most common around is spagnum peat. is this what you all are using?  ? or should i be looking around for a different kind of peat? |
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Post by thebeav2 on Nov 18, 2004 6:37:55 GMT -6
Well dosen't peat moss eventualy absorb water if It's not replaced after a few rainy days?
Beav
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Post by trappnman on Nov 18, 2004 6:58:08 GMT -6
dry dirt and glycol for freeze/thaw conditions where it is as described- 40s in day, teens at night.
Been using this method now for 3 years, and I have no problems with it.
Line bed with dry dirt....spray...add dirt, spray, etc until trap is bedded...overspray to blend pattern into bed (glycol darkens the dirt and yes, its bad to have a different colored trap bed vs pattern)....
works very well and no adverse reactions by coyotes to it.
Once it gets cold, if I do any coyote trapping (I'd rather be trapping mink in snow) its cold- and dry dirt alone is all you need.
Why buy or make when you can gather.....trappnman
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Post by dj88ryr on Nov 18, 2004 7:03:50 GMT -6
Well dosen't peat moss eventualy absorb water if It's not replaced after a few rainy days? Beav A lot of the key to success with peat moss and rain, is if your bed drains quickly, if you have a lot of clay, as we do here, the water collecting in the bed will be absorbed by the peat, if in sandy loam, the bed drains quickly and doesn't adversely affect the peat. |
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Post by Maineman on Nov 18, 2004 8:00:53 GMT -6
I use peat during almost the entire season and for all the reasons mentioned above...It's light, easy to get, water repellent, freeze proof...
Because it works...
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Post by ScottMc on Nov 18, 2004 9:07:26 GMT -6
I just bought it at Walmart, and for a cubic Yard it was $1.00.
And a cubic yard will go a LOOOOONNNNNGGG way.
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