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Post by kzoocritter on Oct 12, 2004 20:21:56 GMT -6
What do you prefer to use when staking coyote traps? HD Berkshire or old school rebar?
If you use cable stakes how long would you make them for #3's with offset padded jaws and shock springs?
Thanks for any advice here
Chuck
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Post by RdFx on Oct 12, 2004 20:36:56 GMT -6
Rebar and cable staked earth anchors both work well.... Cross stake with rebar if yotes are around... THe length of the rebar depends on the soil you are trapping in.. .... in hard ground two 18 inch 1/2 inch rebars would be ok... if you have loose sand then possibly two 36 inch rebars would be needed. On cable stakes in my soil which is semi hard farmland 12 inch cable is fine but i keep some that are 18 inches for sandy areas. Dont forget the use of drags if you are in brushy areas as they have thier place also.
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Post by Edge on Oct 12, 2004 21:19:51 GMT -6
So far I am liking the cable;mine range from 12 inches to 18 inches in length;if one seems light,I use 2.All of mine are set up with 4 links of #3 chain,1/8 cable,and HD Berkshires. I have rod if I need it,but I dont see many applications that cant be handled by cable or a grapple. I did not like the cable stakes before,mostly because they were made crappy.
Edge
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Post by vttrapper on Oct 13, 2004 13:31:37 GMT -6
I use 1/2 inch pipe for my earth anchors with 16 inches+/- of 1/8 inch cable.
Rerod is all 20 inches and i always double stake.
frank
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Post by briankroberts on Oct 13, 2004 17:59:05 GMT -6
I use the Iowa stakes made from 1/2" gas pipe , to these I attach 14" of 1/8" 7x19 cable, I can't pull them with out a shovel or a pic. The shock springs will take a lot of strain off of your equipment.....B.....
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Post by trappermike on Oct 13, 2004 18:50:49 GMT -6
I use cable on most of mine but keep rebar handy
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Post by dj88ryr on Oct 13, 2004 21:16:25 GMT -6
I really like cable stakes and trust them 100% especially the super cable stakes Edge makes. But, I also trap a lot of tilled farmland, and here I use crossed 18"x 1/2" rebar, fowling up a farmers equipment with a left in cable stake will be sure to get you uninvited for next season. Both have their place and I use both, probably close to 50/50.
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Post by Stef on Oct 13, 2004 21:38:42 GMT -6
2 X 18" Stef
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Post by Mark on Oct 13, 2004 21:47:24 GMT -6
Old school
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Post by DMoninger on Oct 15, 2004 5:03:18 GMT -6
3/8" diameter 2.5" earth anchors with 18" 7x7 3/32" GAC, which after the end loop and attachment is made builds out to ~12" of end to end cable length.
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Post by Zagman on Oct 15, 2004 5:35:25 GMT -6
I am always surprised to see how many guys make their cable stakes out of 1/8th inch cable.....when I used to buy them, they always came with 3/32". So when I started making my own, that is what I used.....
Is the reason you guys use the heavier cable for the expectation that:
A) You will leave them in the ground for future use?
Or
B) You will pull them every year and the heavier cable will stand up better to constant pulling?
I leave 95% of mine in the ground and maybe only reuse 10% of those the next year.....if it is tilled ground, I pull them.
I have never (knock on wood) had a coyote break a 3/32" cable, but now you got me thinkin'.......
Zagman
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Post by Edge on Oct 15, 2004 14:05:44 GMT -6
**A) You will leave them in the ground for future use?
Or
B) You will pull them every year and the heavier cable will stand up better to constant pulling?**
Right on both counts.Also,in the event the stake gets chewed,1/8 stands a lot more chewing.
Edge
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Post by coyote on Oct 15, 2004 16:02:49 GMT -6
when I re-string, I use 1/8 because I'm cheap enough to want to pull em back up for re-use.
next batch, I'm adding a few links of chain on the top, so they'll lay flat in the bed if they get jacked up a hair.
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Oct 15, 2004 16:30:57 GMT -6
pro line stakes and rebar, I know what I have in rebar and prolines, if I can't budge it either can a coyote on 18"+ of chain. I can drive up to 90% of my sets the rest are all within a couple hundred yards of the truck, so packing metal is no problem, I have lost 1 coyote due to stake failure in 22 years and thats when I was young and had a set for fox on 18" of angle iron. I want no stake movement without alot of force and I know they hold thats on 24-48-72 check laws. The stakes come out fairly easy with a vicegrips and twisting back and forth. I keep 24" and 30" stakes and cross peg if needed in very sandy soils.
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Post by briankroberts on Oct 15, 2004 21:41:01 GMT -6
Zags some of mine get pulled 5 or so times a season. I want as tough as I can get, I don't worry about chewing much cause 95% of mine are below ground even after a catch. I do like the 7x19 cable as it is limper and easier to work with.....B.....
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Post by Mark on Oct 15, 2004 21:52:56 GMT -6
Home-made 20" rebar, cross staked.
Mark
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Post by vttrapper on Oct 16, 2004 3:31:21 GMT -6
Zaggss,,,,
Ran into a good deal on 1/8 inch cable so figured I would save my smaller cable . Also like to keep the stakes in the ground if agreeable with the landowner. My tinking is that bigger cable loasts longer. Of course, I speed dip the cablestake before i pound them in thus insureing a extra year or 2 of rust protection.
frank
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Post by Cityboy on Oct 16, 2004 13:27:01 GMT -6
My first year of cable staking. Heard to many good things about em and they are easy to carry. Went with 3/32 myself 12 inches long.
Cityboy
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Post by Dan Allen on Oct 16, 2004 22:38:28 GMT -6
Old school here. ~MT~
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Post by mostinterestingmanintheworld on Oct 16, 2004 23:00:54 GMT -6
I thought I'd try cable stakes a couple of years ago.
Bought a couple of O'Gorman drivers and a bunch of stakes.
First one I tried I hit a rock at 8 inches. I was 400 yards down in a canyon from the ATV.
I took the whole mess home put them back in the shed and went back to drags and cable tie offs.
I dislike pounding stakes and dislike pulling them even more.
Joel
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