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Post by T-Bar on Oct 10, 2004 17:37:14 GMT -6
I plan on using alot of pvc sets out at the farm I'll be setting next weekend, mainly because I think it would be easiest, plus we got a bunch of free pvc from a plumber that we know.
When setting the traps, how far away do you put them from the pipe?
Are 2 traps better than 1?
Approximately how far between sets?
Do you need to bury traps, or can you just cover them with leaves or hay from the edges of fields?
I've only caught 1 coon in a foothold, and that was a drowning set, so I guess I am unsure on how much you can get away with as far as how you bed your trap for them.
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Post by Maineman on Oct 10, 2004 19:45:22 GMT -6
Keith, There are many variations of the PVC set…It can be set on land for upland coons or along creek banks for water coon. Let me take a shot at your question…If you’re setting for water coon, take a piece of 1-1/2 diameter (WHITE) PVC and find a creek bank that is relatively straight (up and down). If you can’t find one you can take a shovel and shave a sloped bank to your liking…Tap the PVC into the bank (horizontal) so that it will be approximately 24 inches from the ground…I use a piece of wood on the end of the pipe when driving it into the bank so I don’t shatter the “Plastic” pipe. When I tap the PVC in, I like to pull it back out and clean out the mud in the pipe, then reinsert the pipe… Make sure that your pipe is not too close to the top of the bank or the coon may try to work the set from the top…You only need 1 trap per set. I like to place my trap (either #11 or 1-1/2) in a water depth of 2 inches but you can catch coons in deeper water (6-8)…Place your trap under the end of the trap and stake or attach a drag/grapple…No need to bed the trap but you do NOT want your trap moving so you may need to manipulate the creek bottom so to get your trap sitting flat. Any fish bait works well and I like to shoot the pipe inside and out with fish oil…You can gang set these sets close just make sure that the coons won't touch once caught. You can also mix it up with 1 PVC set between 2 pocket sets. Be creative.  I don’t use the PVC set on land although it will catch coons…I’d just assume set a dirt hole and have a shot at a K9 as well. I will tell you that if you set a trap on land for coon you’d better bed your trap good…Coons like to dig and if given a reason will. It’s been a while since I've checked, but Beav use to have a website showing a PVC set for upland coons. Good Luck... Dave Z |
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Post by trappnman on Oct 11, 2004 6:40:53 GMT -6
good post Dave-
setting pipes on land is no big secret. Plant the pipe at a 45 degree angle- I like to have about 8-10 inches sticking out...and set the trap so the inner edge of the trap is right under a line drawn down from the top edge of the pipe.
Will also take fox.
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Post by thebeav2 on Oct 11, 2004 7:40:56 GMT -6
thebeav.topcities.com/fall03/fall03.html#pvcI have found that buy placing the pipe In the verticle postion your trap placement is more exact and you will have better results. With the pipe In the verticle postion the coon has to get right up close to the pipe to work It. With a few guides behind and to the sides It's just like an above the ground dirt hole. No matter what type of set you make your traps need to be bedded and covered. Beav
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Post by T-Bar on Oct 11, 2004 8:13:00 GMT -6
Beav, do you find this set more effective on land or in water?
Or is there really no difference?
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Post by thebeav2 on Oct 11, 2004 11:38:18 GMT -6
I road trap and run 160 trail sets. In many situations the county road crews will mow down the heavy grass In the road side ditches.You still have a hot trail but no cover to hide the trap from the coon. Most of these tubes are to large to block with a 160 so I will place a pvc set right on the trail.
Do I make lots of these sets? Nope, just where they have cut the grass. Will they work In other locations ? You bet It's the eye apeal that makes It work.
Same with water sets It's The eye apeal.
But like any other set you still have to be on location.
Beav
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Post by buckeyehunter on Oct 11, 2004 13:48:21 GMT -6
As I recall, Steve had a good article in Trapper and Predator Caller magazine about PVC sets. If you subscribe to that magazine you could access that article online. Steve can fill you in on what month that article appeared in the magazine.
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Post by trappnman on Oct 11, 2004 16:41:43 GMT -6
Beav- not that we would ever disagree- but I find I have a higher % of catches on a 45 degree pipe.
Plus- keeps the rain out of pipe.... ;D
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Post by thebeav2 on Oct 11, 2004 21:02:05 GMT -6
No argument here, this Is what works for me.
It dosen't rain In WI during coon season.LOL
A slight cut down one side of the pipe will allow the rain to run out. My bait Is water proof.
And for argument sake I bet you will get just as much water In a pipe On a 45 deg angle as you will with one In the verticle postion.
Beav
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Oct 12, 2004 15:29:14 GMT -6
Boy you guys go through alot of work to catch coons ;D Before I road trapped them, I used to use wooden stakes with fiber fill and then sq mesh cage wire over the top stapled to the stake, I would make these 2ft long and set them along creeks where ever you had coon sign, slam them in between the shore and leave enough room for a 1.5 coil in the water, then the stake pushed in and lured, the white and the lure and you can pile up the coons, you can carry a bunch in a 5 gal bucket quick and easy. I used cement blocks poored in the bigger coffee cans and an eye bolt, I would just put them all up on a bank and use them again next year. I have caught fox, mink and rats with this deal. By dragging them you wouldn't be replacing your stakes very often. Early on 4 -5 ft of twin loop chain, then later years 5-6ft of 3/32 cable as my connectors. You can leave everything except the trap on the bank and no rust problems for years.
I would have never wanted to be luggin around pvc and the hassles involved, but to each his own.
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Post by Edge on Oct 12, 2004 15:41:58 GMT -6
With no discernable wind present;rain falls at 11.5 degrees off plumb.
Edge
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Post by T-Bar on Oct 12, 2004 17:01:58 GMT -6
Like Beav said, it never rains in Wisconsin in the fall anyway, and the weather is always reliable and predictable here!
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Post by thebeav2 on Oct 12, 2004 18:28:43 GMT -6
Come on trapping coyotes 35, your tellin me that building cages over grub stakes and hauling around cement drags Is more work then driving a 10" piece PVC into the ground 10 yards from the truck. Like I said I only use them when the trail cover Is gone.
Beav
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Post by trappnman on Oct 12, 2004 18:51:21 GMT -6
If I wanted to hurry- a pvc pipe set would take all of 60 secs to make.
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Oct 12, 2004 18:53:17 GMT -6
I made them in the summer, wasn't a cage, just wire wrapped bent around the fiber fill and stapled, I bought pre cut stakes from my lumber yard, I could make a bunch up in a hurray. The cement blocks where poured in the summer and never brought back to my house. They were used at the same place year after year for 10 years or so. I was mostly kiddding about the pvc, but really I wouldn't want to lug it around, the stakes where quick and simple, I could put out 50 in a day and still had time to do other things. It sounds very crude I know but worked amazingly well.
The coons with that weight would head for the first cover they found and were waiting, move everything back to the stake and down to the next one. The blocks were all in place by sept 1st, that first year on private farms.
If you want use pvc, I was just relating a quick simple way to catch coons.
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Oct 12, 2004 18:55:07 GMT -6
The cage part was me trying to explain the material, like that you find on the bottom of rabbitt cages, I hope I cleared that up, the wire just kept the fiber fill from blow off the stake, or getting ripped off.
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