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Post by thefoxtrapper on Sept 9, 2004 12:25:01 GMT -6
Some of you guys make the simplest thing into complicated matters....1.75 and under size traps I set in my hand, don't need nothing to set on...set some #2s like this, #3s and larger I push down on the ground...and I'm not a big fella so I know its not that hard to set a trap with a short chain...when I'm river trapping, I would be in trouble if I had to have something to push down on, to set my traps....I use about 8-10" on my staked steel traps, 6" max on my rubber traps, I personally don't want to give the animal a running start and lunging room, plus with the live market you are asking for a tore up foot, some of the grays do enough staked solid with a short chain...a grays foot is like a toothpick in my book...Winston
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Post by Iowa Badger on Sept 9, 2004 12:41:21 GMT -6
I prefer a short chain. Less than 6".
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Post by bobwendt on Sept 9, 2004 12:48:11 GMT -6
never had to shovel a badger out with a short chain, no small consideration in western locales.
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Post by Maineman on Sept 9, 2004 13:02:09 GMT -6
never had to shovel a badger out with a short chain. Me either... ;D
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Post by coydog on Sept 9, 2004 13:03:50 GMT -6
Some of you guys make the simplest thing into complicated mattersWhats so complicated about different opinions there foxtrapper? #3s and larger I push down on the groundThats fun to do when its a muddy mess isnt it? I hear you on the trowel trick Bob, sounds fine if thats what you want to do. I dont have anything against a short chainer, I just dont do em. I have no problems with them "lunging" out of my trap, or excessive foot damage, so if it aint broke, Im not a gonna fix it ;D
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Post by thefoxtrapper on Sept 9, 2004 13:21:15 GMT -6
I wear gloves when the weather is nasty and have several pairs with me when one gets real wet and muddy....The lunging and belly flops back and forth will cause some foot damage, maybe not visible to the average eye, but it is there, skin some out some time and you will see what I'm talking about....when I'm fur trapping, I really could care less cause he's dead anyways, but if selling live a bum foot is a no sale and most fox guys know what to look for....its really whateve everyone likes but I dont see where setting a trap in muddy conditions is all that bad, when I'm out trapping I expect to come back home filthy and soaking wet half the time as much rain as we get....getting nasty ain't never bothered me but I know it does some, so guess the long chain works better for them fellas...
Winston
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Post by coydog on Sept 9, 2004 13:26:30 GMT -6
Hey, you never know when your gonna run into that bus of Sweedish swimsuit models out trappin ;D I like to stay squeeky clean, I get dirty enough skinning
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Post by bobwendt on Sept 9, 2004 13:54:22 GMT -6
ah ah, I just keep my important parts out of the mud in case of an emergency encounter with the swedish swimsuit models. Most of the good old gals I cross trails with appreciate a man with a little grit under his nails, then they know you have J-O-B and won`t mooch off them. I didn`t say smooch, I said mooch
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Post by jim on Sept 9, 2004 15:59:58 GMT -6
Mallard : I would rather let cats go on a short chain than a long one, easier to get the noose on them, why is the short chain harder for you? I let some go every year also. Jim
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Post by 3n on Sept 9, 2004 16:20:50 GMT -6
18 inches of chain and three swivels.
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Post by DaveLyons on Sept 9, 2004 22:02:04 GMT -6
I have tried a lot of different lenghts. Most of my traps have 18 inches of chain and three swivels.
I am going to try a few doz. with the short set up this year and see how it goes.
You guys need to know the area Mallard traps. It is beach sand Lake MI beach sand. He lives in TC MI. I could see why it would be hard. But think the trowel would help out a little.
The first year the wife and I were married, I sent her out on one section of the line mostly all fox locations so I was using 1.5 coils but she had two coyote locations to check. When she got to them she called me on the cell phone and was PISSED. She couldn't set the #3 by hand and said what am I suppose to dowith these traps. I nice polite person I can be when she is fire hot mad was hang-up the phone ( That gets her even more HOT ) Once we were back at home with the days catch I asked her if she got the traps set. With one good slug to the gut she said yes. She set them on the trowel and used her feet.
This pass FTA convention she say #5 coils. I said if you can set them I get a few. Think she don't have enough @## in her to set them even with her feet. WELL I had to buy a few to beaver trap with her. Women will do anything to get there sheerd Beaver coats Guys.
Dave
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Post by redpig on Sept 9, 2004 22:03:12 GMT -6
I use a mix of lenghts depending on the condition. I believe that a longer chain can cause an animal to only get a 90 degree pull on the stake and also is an added benefit on a drag. Most traps I use have a min of 30" of chain and some have 4 feet. I believe this lessens pumping and with good spings and shock springs havent caused any problems.
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Post by ColdSteel on Sept 10, 2004 17:58:33 GMT -6
I like the short chains also.I think it is easier to release nontarget animals.I went with a boy one day and he had a 2 ft chain and a mean ass dog and it took me about 10 minutes to get the release pole around the dogs head,A mean dog can do alot of lunging on a 2ft chain besides my rifle is zeroed in at 6inches
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