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Post by redpig on Aug 28, 2004 15:58:28 GMT -6
Ive been building drags for coyotes. I am interested in what people are using for points. I use used cotton picker spindles, they are hard and sharp. Last year stopped a coyote on blacktop with a drag I built. Anyone else using anything else.
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Post by Wackyquacker on Aug 28, 2004 17:35:10 GMT -6
Last year stopped a coyote on blacktop with a drag I built. Now I know where them flat coyotes that Coxs was talking about came from. I fashion grapples complete with Wimberly plows. They work great for me in this country. Problem is you have to forge them which means work...I like they smell of a coal fire and now consider it a tradition of fall. Grinding and welding seems to be an easier approach to construction, if a fellow can weld and has a welder.
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Post by Clefus on Aug 28, 2004 19:58:02 GMT -6
Wacky.. The forged ones are nicer...after you get setup with a forge..it is easier than grinding...
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Post by Timber on Aug 28, 2004 20:09:33 GMT -6
Not to hijack this thread but,
What do you guys use for a forge? How is it set up?
I have been trying to get started in blacksmithy but have had a hard time finding any info.
If you coulf post picts I would appreciate it.
Most of my drags are made of 5/8 rebar and have ground points. I also have some commercial drags from various people. The area I trap in they don't get far without getting hung up. If they do the dog finds them before I even know they are gone.
Thanks
Tim
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Post by Stef on Aug 28, 2004 20:51:20 GMT -6
I use now railroad spikes. Just have to grind a little on 2 sides, cheap and long enough for making nice drags. Stef
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Post by Wackyquacker on Aug 28, 2004 22:08:20 GMT -6
Stef you're gonna go to jail swipin all the nails out of the transcanadian!
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Post by Stef on Aug 28, 2004 22:10:41 GMT -6
Please don't call the RCMP ;D
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Post by Wackyquacker on Aug 28, 2004 22:10:56 GMT -6
Timber here is a link that may interest you: www.anvilfire.com/As for my forge I made a make shift thing and it won't fall apart so to cause me to make a real one, LOL. Clefus you must be one big boy if drawing points on 1/2" stock is easier than grinding...dang! I do like the feel of the hammer falls.
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Post by Clefus on Aug 29, 2004 12:06:49 GMT -6
LOL Wacky....
make sure to get the metal hot enough....that was the problem i had when i started.....
I do a few dozen at a clip..then go build something else....
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Post by Edge on Aug 29, 2004 13:01:53 GMT -6
**make sure to get the metal hot enough....that was the problem i had when i started.....**
That knocks about a week off the learning curve!It drains me to watch someone pound the pi$$ out of pink/hot steel.
For you DIY forge guys(and user/newbies)make sure yo have a good sized work area,if it must be outdoors,block the wind,there is application for air at a forge;blowing it across white hot steel should not be one of them.Since you will be heating metal;HEAT IT,if you are color blind,go by smell and sound,you will learn quickly when it is time for the forge to work and you to *wait*. Anvilfire(posted above)is a great site,but you are also wise toattend steam engine shows,as there is always a blacksmith on site. Build your forge twice as big as you need,and ready it for a powered air source,even if it is manual to start with,you can thank me later.
Edge
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Post by Wackyquacker on Aug 29, 2004 13:57:02 GMT -6
I've been frettin over what I did to my screen and just reallized that dang Canuk posted a 43 billion mega pixel PIC of a drag what spread out the screen. Stef you goof stop doin that I don't give a hoot how hot you get that metal it's still work; granted a bunch less when it's just right but still work.
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Post by Clefus on Aug 29, 2004 16:26:44 GMT -6
LOL Wacky..
Edge nailed it....
Go watch a good blacksmith if you can...you can learn a LOT...... ;D
Edge..just got me a blower attached to a gearbox run with an electric motor...blower has a 5 in. hole...boy does it blow.... ;D
have plans on a new forge for it... ;D
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Post by Edge on Aug 29, 2004 16:30:47 GMT -6
So you will be able to "pan"the airflow?I have 2 and they DONT do that,one is convertible,but time is short now...........LMAO!
Edge
PS My first forge I hooked up with a AC blower I converted myself,air blew straight up.What a friggin mess.Volunteer labor is the most expensive way to build anything.
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Post by Clefus on Aug 29, 2004 16:33:45 GMT -6
It has a counter weighted flapper to control airflow... Might put on a variable speed switch...not sure....its a spring project.. ;D
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Post by Edge on Aug 29, 2004 16:38:30 GMT -6
If you will be in WI,I can bring you a rheostat that will handle anything you put thru it..........the assembly is big tho;size of a volleyball and no way to maintain it,if it goes,its replaced.
Edge
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Post by redfeather on Aug 29, 2004 20:01:42 GMT -6
Stef, I am starting to use the 4 foot long T-post because I get them for free. I like your idea of the RR spike welded on the ends. I am going to weld RR spikes on the end of my T-post. My T-post do not have the barb on them, so the welded RR spikes will turn them into good drags. Thanks for a great idea.
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