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Post by TDunn on Aug 15, 2004 19:36:28 GMT -6
When setting for coyotes, what factors determine if you will use a solid staking or a drag?
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Post by dj88ryr on Aug 15, 2004 20:00:13 GMT -6
The fact that I do not own any drags anymore, ;D I stake everything.  |
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Post by coyoteman37 on Aug 15, 2004 20:19:06 GMT -6
I prefer to drag but sometimes I have to stake.the biggest factor in my work where is the animal going when he gets caught where will tangle when caught. how many houses around etc. you can drag bean fields. the best way to figure it out is use 1 drag for awhile and learn how to follow sign. also if you have a dog he will find it for you.
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Post by Planes & Poison on Aug 15, 2004 22:11:33 GMT -6
After I've determined a good coyote set location, the question I ask myself is, "Can I drag here?" I prefer dragging coyotes to staking them, most of the time.
With cats, it's much different, because sometimes I prefer to stake even if ther terrain is suitable to drag.
When I do get into a number of foxes, I run almost all my sets with stakes.
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Post by Edge on Aug 15, 2004 22:13:02 GMT -6
If you want the yote *there*;stake.
If you want the yote *hid*;grapple.
If you like catch circles,Stake.
If you like re-using hot locations whilst not advertising it to the competition,grapple.
If there is something to hang up in,I grapple,I would like to grapple everything,but some creekbeds and hardpan areas would make for a long tracking job.
I have a dog but she is indiffrent to coyotes and tracking them;good company tho.
Edge
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Post by trappnman on Aug 16, 2004 7:34:51 GMT -6
Does anyone use branches as drags for canines? When I first strted coyote trapping, I used them. Branches 6-10 feet long, many side branches, solid hardwood. Wire about a 4 foot chain to them then the trap. Seemed to work pretty good.
I catch 2-4 coyotes every season in coon dirtholes on such drags, and again, the coyote doesn't get far.
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Post by thebeav2 on Aug 16, 2004 8:31:34 GMT -6
Dam now I will have to pull a trailer behind the truck to haul all my fox and coyote drags, and here I thought I had It all figured out. LOL
Beav
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Post by trappnman on Aug 16, 2004 8:45:39 GMT -6
Beav- doesn't WI have any woods over by you? ;D Branch drags in the woods here are as common as B Favre interceptions.....  |
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Post by dj88ryr on Aug 16, 2004 11:29:38 GMT -6
Branch drags in the woods here are as common as B Favre interceptions..... Oh Man....LMAO!!! ;D ;D |
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Post by vttrapper on Aug 16, 2004 12:17:37 GMT -6
Stake on sets where I will be for 1 week. Drag on sets were I will be set 2 months, or where there is real good entanglement.
frank
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Post by thebeav2 on Aug 16, 2004 12:33:35 GMT -6
Tman I don't trap in the woods for coyotes or fox.I would rather stake or drag with a steel grappnel.
Interceptons!! you forgot to mention most yards passing and most touchdowns In the NFL
Where were the Viqueens LOL
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Post by trapperbill on Aug 16, 2004 20:34:56 GMT -6
Trappnman I use a lot of those branch or small log drags. ;D
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Post by Steve Gappa on Aug 16, 2004 22:13:59 GMT -6
Do you use long chains or short chains?
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Post by Stef on Aug 16, 2004 22:24:27 GMT -6
Yes I do use wood drag (branche) for drag sometime.
As far as I'm concerned, they are some of the best drag to stop a coyote quick.
But... not usable at many locations.
I do use extension chain when I do that.
Stef
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Post by trapperbill on Aug 17, 2004 0:42:10 GMT -6
I have about 6 ft of chain on all my bigger traps for coyote and cats.I can S hook it to a log drag or snap on a grapple for the situation.I have used 11ga wire in the past in a pinch.Yea I know  While I don't recommed it I have held lots of coyotes in cat sets with it.I think as long as they can get away from the set and hide they don't fight it and twist as much.I will say this though.Seems coyote are not afraid of exposed wire ,For some reason they shy from the exposed chain grapple set up.Thats my experience anyway.During the fur boom yotes were a thorn in my side trapping Az cats! |
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Post by timwilcox on Aug 17, 2004 10:22:20 GMT -6
I like to see what I catch where I make the set. I do enough tracking hunting deer, I don't want to do it during trapping season.
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Post by mostinterestingmanintheworld on Aug 17, 2004 11:51:57 GMT -6
Haven't used a stake for years.
I trap for cats and there are a number of reasons I don't like stakes.
They are a pain to pound and a pain to pull for one thing.
Many if not most of my cats sets are under a tree or rock ledge. Cats will invariably go straight up when they can. Straight up isn't good when using stakes.
Much western cat country has bedrock close to the surface and is often covered with sand. Not a good staking situation.
An animal that has been able to move away from the set is more likely to lie down and hide than one that is staked solid.
If I'm concerned about lack of brush for tangling the drag I either attach another drag in tandem or occaisonally I'll wire a rock in tandem. Usually another drag as I dislike rocks and the time they take.
You put a cat on 12-16 feet of chain with two drags you can pretty much hold them in a sand dune.
Anyway just my thoughts.
Joel
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