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Post by Stef on Jul 1, 2004 13:13:07 GMT -6
Seal oil is very mild but good strong mellow smell.
Smells about the same as commercial pressed fish oil both in strenght and odor.
But Seal oil is a lot more oily.
Digging, I've seen k-9s digging on about all lures (gland call bait etc..) in different months of the year.
Gland lure in a deep hole, they will dug it out and they will take out the lure holder, stick etc... out of the hole than shoulder rub on ground, roll, pee and move ;D
Think that's like the urine thread, ""curiosity kill""
Stef
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Post by trappnman on Jul 1, 2004 15:43:48 GMT -6
T-man: What did you think of the tenacity of the seal oil?
what stef said...LOl- was mild- but got a quick response in a coupleo f sets that had no action for a while.
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Post by 717 Yards on Jul 1, 2004 20:59:07 GMT -6
Ok, the coyote has blown the hole open and covered the trap. What do you do next???
As I gang set a lot, and he's not waiting in another trap I'll move the trap back to the end of the chain, which puts it about 16 or so inches from the hole, re-bed it then rebait. I'll leave the small dirt mound in front of the hole... My thoughts are as his front feet are digging his back feet are moving also.
I'v caught a few this way but wonder what others would do.. Good question... "Matt"
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Post by Wackyquacker on Jul 1, 2004 21:01:44 GMT -6
You might turn it into a step sown or trench type set...works pretty good at times.
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Post by trappnman on Jul 1, 2004 21:03:59 GMT -6
When this happens- I figure it was from either 1 of 2 things- poor guiding or poor presentation (blending).
I usually cover u pothe lbown hole, remake another hole next to it (we are talking flat sets- seldom if ever have a hole blown in a stepdown) and rebed/blend the trap better.
I treat it just about like a remake, and mist (as I like to do) the pattern/set area with urine.
Works for me.
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Post by MChewk on Jul 2, 2004 8:27:40 GMT -6
I use a concoction of rotten down chipmunk/striped ground squirrel s with some other goodies added to create a digging response. Castor, fishoil and oil sacks have produced digging responses for me.....as well as a jug of"wildcat urine" I bought off of Ludy Sheda one time. Think it was filled up by his employees after a long night of partying ,,,lol
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Post by trappnman on Jul 2, 2004 8:34:42 GMT -6
So- we all agree that the lure itself causes some digging response- eitherm ore or less depending on the infreidients.
But is that the only factor? Or the most important?
How about presentation?
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Post by vttrapper on Jul 2, 2004 11:46:47 GMT -6
Presintation of the lure/bait? I will assume you mean how is the lure applyed.
As has been said, if it is deep in the hole and the critter likes it, they will dig.
frank
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Post by MChewk on Jul 2, 2004 13:12:36 GMT -6
I agree Frank....deeper the better.
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Post by trappnman on Jul 2, 2004 15:51:37 GMT -6
Exactly- if he can't get at it..he will dig. Thats one reason I like small holes at flat sets- NO WAY can he access the lure holder without digging.
But I would think that high/low application of lure would also influence the actions of the canine.
Also- is the digging response a forerunner of a rolling response...or does just "touching" the lure satisfy?
I would guess the later- cause I seldom see evidence of a coyote rolling AFTER they have dug up a lure hole.
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Post by Stef on Jul 2, 2004 17:46:59 GMT -6
Well, some will and some won't.
Each individuals do different thing.
I noticed especially heavy rolling after they had taking out holders from holes etc... with Indispensable and Extreme Gland lures and both lures are mild lures!!!!
Stef
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