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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Jun 18, 2016 8:01:17 GMT -6
Your are false Tman. False. Any handgun bought online must go to a FFL dealer his number and address must be on the package, if you are not doing so then you are breaking federal law! Many will not ship long guns without the same unless it is considered an antique gun either.
If you buy online and the guy has an FFL which the highest majority do, then they only ship to an FFL dealer. Someone has to do the transfer paper work. Online sales are first and foremost new gun sales which means a FFL dealer is involved. No handgun sales can cross state lines that is already federal law so why do we need to add to the law already in use and is used .
Gun shows the same thing private to private sales yes can still take place, just like I can sell a gun from my home, the few I have sold private I always get a photo copy of their drivers license and keep it on file to protect ME!
Your read too much leftist blogs craigslist prohibits gun sales of any kind even BB guns. Same with eBay . The liability is too high for them so they just do not do it.
If you want to see how it really works check out gun broker owned by eBay, they have safe guards in place for each and every gun sale. Craigslist good grief.
FB has stopped such as well , again unless you have an FFL dealer number.
The facts remain far less people selling guns from their homes than licensed dealers 1/10 of one percent, most are buying MORE guns not getting rid of them and the vast majority of sales are through FFL dealers. I have bought a few guns from gun broker rifles and pistols they all go to a local FFL dealer, the gun is shipped and I do the paperwork when they receive shipment, no passing then the gun goes back to the dealer. Which is a pain in the butt to dispose of a firearm and then put it back into the system, but they are all tracked in this manner.
When was the last time you where to a gun show? A old college friend runs some of the largest gun shows in the Midwest. Has been doing such for almost 28 years.
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Post by trappnman on Jun 18, 2016 8:36:12 GMT -6
a month ago
------------------- go set that 220 in the park-
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Jun 18, 2016 12:26:16 GMT -6
That's it? Come on talk to the pints you made please? Handgun sales on line going through the mail direct to someone's house? Craigslist and the amount of gun sales taking place there? Rifle sales and homicide rates versus knife sales and homicide rates in the US. Direct from the FBI. You can't because your information is all smoke and has no facts to back such. Yet the liberials keep banging the same drum, all these gun sales taking place online and going through the mail to people's front doors LOL. I laugh every time I hear such muck..........
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Post by trappnman on Jun 18, 2016 12:29:55 GMT -6
you asked when I went to a gun show-
nothing else was worth replying to- as Wiley E often said, I'm not going to discuss the shape of the table
I'm real happy, that the vast majority of Americans don't think like you do- gives me hope that reasonable people can still have reasonable solutions with a dialogue-
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Jun 18, 2016 13:51:20 GMT -6
Lots of people think the way I do, some just don't express it in a public forum. But there are plenty out there for sure! They have told me such.
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Post by trappnman on Jun 18, 2016 13:52:29 GMT -6
good bumper sticker- "I'm with the Racist"
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Jun 18, 2016 14:47:54 GMT -6
A better bumper sticker, I am with the lady that deleated govt owned emails and then lied about it................
Anyone else that did such in the federal govt would be locked up in fed prison long before now! 110 percent fact!
When is Trumps next KKK rally anyone know? LOL?
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Post by trappnman on Jun 18, 2016 15:19:37 GMT -6
quick question- how many emails did bush delete? 9I know, but know TC doesn't have a clue, so would be fun for him to actually find out)
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you think racism is funny?
yup- lots of difference between you and me.
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Jun 18, 2016 18:48:51 GMT -6
How many did Bush delete please tell me, would love to know what,where,when and why of it all for real.
The divert tactic is one liberials have tried to use for years. You will not talk to the pints of what she did was 110 percent wrong, you want to bring up the past instead of talking about the lady running this year to become our president. Do we really want to keep playing this game of he did so she can do it or hold these butt wipes to a higher standard? What about Bill and Monica? Instead of saying what he did was wrong in so many ways and I am sure the left has past presidents who have done something close to the same thing, still does not make any of it right now does it?
show me where I can find the Bush email deleted story please.
Do I think Trump is a racist no way. I believe he wants boarder control which we need and people are afraid he will get it done, so we need to label him a racist. Many photo ops of him with plenty of colored politicians and the such.
If you think Donald trump being a racist in your mind and that of the left is the top issue facing our country so be it. I see far more bigger issues that have real meat to them besides trumps false stats on crime or wanting to build a wall and getting it done.
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Post by trappnman on Jun 18, 2016 21:23:11 GMT -6
look it up- you are the one that so loves facts-
so- look it up. It took me about 5 secs-
Hint: a LOT more than Hillary-but no outrage there, is there?
Do I think Trump is a racist no way.
then you sir, are a racist
Even Ryan, who I despise, says clearly- and a direct quote- "Trump's remarks are the textbook definition of racism". and one GOP leader after another says the same- so if you think its "the left"- you are living in a make believe world
and yes, the leader of our country being a racist- IS a big deal (unless you are a racist as well, and your words show you are).
to deny he is, is beyond my comprehension.
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Post by PamIsMe on Jun 19, 2016 1:20:57 GMT -6
"..million the numbers do not make sense until they add in suicide and conform them to an agenda." The figures included suicides, homicides and accidents. When you throw out things like knives kill more people than rifles, put your source down as well. Taking guns not just rifles from this site: www.scientificamerican.com/article/people-kill-with-guns-more-than-any-other-weapon/ killers used guns 11450 times and other weapons (blunt objects, knives, poison) were used 4,013 and unknown weapons were 1,076. And the reason more GUNS are used is: "The statistics of who kills and how they do it often get lost in the arguments over gun control. In the U.S., where guns are plentiful, men commit more than 90 percent of killings. Their weapon of choice is overwhelmingly a gun. Men kill significant others, individuals they know and strangers more often with guns than any other weapon. Women also more frequently use guns to kill strangers. Perhaps counter intuitively, women are more likely to kill a significant other or family member using a blunt object, knife, poison or other method. (The numbers here, from FBI data on more than 13,000 killing incidents in the U.S. in 2010, include murders, negligent manslaughters and acts of self-defense but not suicides.) Although we tend to think of murderers as crooks or assassins, they are more likely to be someone familiar (right). Both men and women kill many more significant others, family members, acquaintances and co-workers combined than strangers." As for suicides: "In 2010 in the U.S., 19,392 people committed suicide with guns, compared with 11,078 who were killed by others." www.hsph.harvard.edu/magazine-features/guns-and-suicide-the-hidden-toll/ "Though guns are not the most common method by which people attempt suicide, they are the most lethal. About 85 percent of suicide attempts with a firearm end in death. (Drug overdose, the most widely used method in suicide attempts, is fatal in less than 3 percent of cases.)" Those figures were from 2010, I'd wager the toll is even higher now with guns. Pam
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Post by PamIsMe on Jun 19, 2016 1:44:58 GMT -6
" I am with the lady that deleated govt owned emails and then lied about it................ "Anyone else that did such in the federal govt would be locked up in fed prison long before now! 110 percent" fact!"
They might NOW because the rules have been changed. There weren't ANY rules about private email servers when Hillary (and lots of other politicians and secretary's of state) used them. The whole thing is a total political ploy. The FBI and Homeland Security servers have been hacked and Hillary's wasn't. Which was safer? I'm with Bernie, "I'm sick of hearing about Hillary's emails, who the h*ll cares." It's over and done with and there were NO ill effects of any kind because of it.
Same thing with Benghazi, no report, nothing accomplished, millions wasted. When the government is supposedly broke how can they justify spending multiple millions to keep investigating. Doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result is just plain stupid. How many more people could have been helped one way or another with all that money?
I'd be more concerned (not that the Repubs aren't) about a man with 7 children by 3 different wives who had affairs during at least one of his marriages, 3500 lawsuits, 5 bankruptcies, who has accounts offshore to avoid taxes and is a racist ego maniac, who actually has the gall to run for President.
Pam
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Jun 19, 2016 6:15:53 GMT -6
Tman no need to look it up I can gurantee you it is from some leftist rag............... With little facts ........... Pam your something else LOL my source is the FBI good grief not some anti gun babble site. Here you go: www.quandl.com/data/FBI/WEAPONS11-US-Murders-by-Weapon-TypeSo when are you willing to do background checks for knives of ALL kinds butcher to fillet and all I between ? Your wager would be false. Actually even with record guns out there violent gun crimes overall are down a few percentage points again I use real facts not some anti agenda Mumbo gumbo. Yep no laws LOL. She has lied and lied and lied about the emails that is fact,some choose to look past that, you may but to think she will change if elected? Now that is real funny. The only reason some republicans are against trump is because he came through without the approval of the higher archly that is what Po's them the most, the 2 party system is a joke any more and congress is right their with it, the only losers are and will continue to be the people of the USA.
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Post by trappnman on Jun 19, 2016 7:31:43 GMT -6
the reason Republicans with a conscience eject Trump, is what they say: He is a racist, and they can't support him.
you can throw red herrings out all day-
and if you are afraid to learn the facts- that's on you for being a coward in not wanting to know the truth about your man, Trump
Trump is a racist- that's a fact based on his own words.
if you support him, you are a racist as well.
if you don't like Clinton- then vote libertarian, or write in your mom or stay home- but if you still support Trump-
then own it say "I TC, am a racist"
even the MO GOP had the balls to speak up last senate election cycle
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Post by PamIsMe on Jun 19, 2016 23:05:50 GMT -6
TC did you read your own source?? TOTAL MURDERS 11,961
Total by Firearms 8124 Knives 1567
Blunt Objects 435 Personal 660 Poison 7 Explosives 6 Fire 71 Narcotics 62 Drowning 14 Strangulation 89 Asphyxiation 96 Other Weapons or Weapons not Stated 830
Sheesh!
Pam
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