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Post by bblwi on Mar 21, 2013 17:16:38 GMT -6
I bought 1,000 of the 3 by 5 orange flags with the plastic stems and duct taped them to my 7 footer to get an 8.5 foot stake with a nice visible flag waving in the wind. Next year I will also put a different colored either flag or flagging also as that really helps, plus a lot of other trappers use orange. The 1,000 flags cost $74 shipped to me.
Bryce
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Post by trappnman on Mar 21, 2013 18:29:09 GMT -6
roll of tape- $3
and I choose the color!
just jerking your chain- good idea
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Post by bblwi on Mar 21, 2013 21:38:18 GMT -6
Yeah but 1,000 flags amounts to 7.5 cents per stake and my supply will last many years plus I can mark trees, garden etc. etc with them as well.
Bryce
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Post by ScottW on Mar 22, 2013 10:12:00 GMT -6
I get mine at Ben Medows supply. They also carry the wire survey flags to put on top of the pole. For those of You who use a note book on Your line, check out their'' Write in the rain'' note books and pens. I haven't lost a page in one yet. Write in the rain notebooks are awesome! Been going several years on one. Happy trapping. ScottW |
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Post by northof50 on Mar 25, 2013 10:28:05 GMT -6
"Write in the rain log books" can be found in most University book stores ....survey and bio students need them
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Post by Rally Hess on Apr 2, 2013 19:36:15 GMT -6
If you go to half inch fiberglass you will give up the 3/8" in a hurry. I've taken over thirty coon, half a dozen otter and lots of beaver with mine and they are none the worse for wear. I cap my rods, paint the top 15" orange and have designed an adjustable spring that goes up and down the rod, made of #9 galvanized wire with thumb piece.. Also have a 12" piece of 7x19 3/32" cable that mounts on the rod, between the spring that has a 450# stainless steel coastlock snap on the end. They work with either floats or footholds and am making a holder for conibears soon. I'm carrying 1/2" rods in 4, 6, 8, and 10' lengths.
I wrap bundles of 25 with masking tape and break the bundles as I need them. A 6' 1/2" rod with all the hardware weighs right at 1 pound each. Put 200 in the canoe or boat and is no more weight than having another person in the boat who gets skinnier as the day goes on. LOL
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Post by BadDog on Apr 13, 2013 13:58:18 GMT -6
So... got my first taste of the stakes + dukeys. Here's a question... does anybody else think the apple bait has anything to do with catching or do the rats just happen to see a small resting spot and climb on? So far it looks to me like most rats are ther just for the sake of something to climb on.
Like if you put it away from the cattails, it has significantly less value. put it on the cattail edge and you are in the rats.
I had a bunch of baited 110s in the water and most were left alone by the rats. Baited with apple of course!
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Post by thorsmightyhammer on Apr 13, 2013 15:20:32 GMT -6
Marty, I think you will have better luck with baited 160 and 155 than 110s.
Try some popple/aspen for bait.
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Post by motrapperjohn on Apr 14, 2013 14:04:49 GMT -6
All my rats caught, the traps were under water, with apples for bait. Did Not have much luck with baited body grips.
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Post by trappnman on Apr 14, 2013 15:00:21 GMT -6
john- if bait was the attraction- why wouldn't baited bodygrips produce as well?
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Post by Rally Hess on Apr 15, 2013 11:44:48 GMT -6
I believe the bait is much less attractive to a spring rat than a place to crawl out and mark, or look for a spot a female has marked.
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Post by BadDog on Apr 15, 2013 21:02:40 GMT -6
I'm catching rats too with apples above... I guess I shouldn't be a chicken and should try a few new ones without the apples!!! So ya, there's apples... cuz everybody else uses them but are they necessary and is there better? I kinda think I should just be using a gland lure, should attempt a concoction. But again, is the set that effective without lure/bait?
Our rat numbers stink!
Baited connibears... I was just trying a little experimment. If the rats wanted the apples they would have hit them and I would have had all traps sprung. Some were sprung, most were not. I heard a guy in eastern Canada is using carrots at the waterline and that is his standard set, with a 66% success rate. Not a numbers guy tho, and in high number rats anything works well?
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Post by trappnman on Apr 16, 2013 6:06:35 GMT -6
I've nevr trapped spring rats, so bait might well be the ticket- but johns statment that he did nothing with baited conibears, and well on baited stool footholds-
leads me to the same conclusion I have with fall and winter rats w/bait-
and thats is what Rally stated.
If the rats wanted the apples they would have hit them
agreed
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Post by renny1 on Apr 16, 2013 6:50:46 GMT -6
You should have rat glands by now, maybe not. Mix them with a quart/pint of glycerine, mineral oil or what ever and spray it above/beyond your trap. If you can get just the pure musk use that. Make small batches if you are just experimenting. You will have to use an oil can because of the viscosity, the kind a farmer would use to lubricate a bearing. It works better than bait until the rats first breeding cycle is over. Then bait/mud will work again, but mud and grass should be used at every set even if it is just a dab. If I absolutely had to use bait I would use oranges/orange peels. If you use glands you should filter them out so they don't plug your oil can. Just my opinion/experience.
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Post by motrapperjohn on Apr 16, 2013 7:28:31 GMT -6
I didnt have any gland lure to try, But I am sure it would be the ticket in the spring. I did use some of my beaver lure and had great success with it alone. also picked up several beaver on the clips this fall with it. The crawl out thought might work, but all my clips were completly under water 2" as required by the regs. I tried carrots along with the apples with little success. Never tried oranges, cuaght quite a few with only pink flagging. Had the rats chew a lot of flagging off of my H-stands that was completly under water. Ended up losing a few because of that. Found them this fall
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Post by trappnman on Apr 16, 2013 7:39:30 GMT -6
rats swim around evrything in their territory- I think its just that they are there, and swimming around objects (stakes) and bump the "platform" (trap on a clip) and then just climb up on it. I DO think bait is a visual- I know that the poor mans stake/crawlout was just a willow, with a slash made to show white above water. an apple shows white.
as stated I've never trapped spring rats, so the approach to bait might be different then, but your experience of both you and BadDog in regards to untouched bait in conibears would strongly suggest that the attraction to bait, is not to "eat it" per se
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Post by BadDog on Apr 19, 2013 7:56:32 GMT -6
Don't get me wrong tho, I do really like the stands, but only if you have cattails, at least so far. I used to use floats for everything and they are the most attractive artificial set bar none, but also the most junk to pack etc. These fiberglass poles make rat trapping simple when a guy starts approaching old age!
Carlis, are these things even more effective in fall? or less?
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Post by motrapperjohn on Apr 19, 2013 8:28:21 GMT -6
I had good success in the fall. My problem was finding rats because of the drought, had lots of dead water (no rats) and smaller water had ice nightly or strong winds in the daytime which made getting out on some water impossible. Of coarse my total take this fall was way down fromt this spring because of stated reasons and of coarse the rats are much more active in the spring because of breeding.
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Post by thorsmightyhammer on Apr 20, 2013 10:21:47 GMT -6
Marty, the only reason why most guys use stools in teh spring is because of state laws.
In SD where the trap doesnt have to be submerged you will see way more floats.
In ND wher ethe trap either has to be submerged 2 inches or coverd from above you will see more stools becasue the stools are easier to keep the trap submerged.
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Post by trappnman on Apr 20, 2013 19:30:10 GMT -6
steven- not saying this is practical or wouldn't be anything but a PIA- but if you impaled a shingle on the stake above the trap 6-0" would that be legal?
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