Prime Example

[seldom]

Yup, snow never lies which makes this a prime example of the reaction I see with 4 out of every 5 coyote catch circles! This catch circle is 6 days old and was originally taken down to bare dirt whereas there's now a 4" snow cover.

[ksboy2]

did they piss on the backing (assuming the tree)

[seldom]

Jan 28, 2013 14:50:58 GMT -6 ksboy2 said:

did they piss on the backing (assuming the tree)

The tree was not used as a backing but no, not a drop!

[trappnman]

can you repost the pic?

[seldom]

Jan 28, 2013 16:10:07 GMT -6 trappnman said:

can you repost the pic?

What did you do that you can't see it? My original post still has the photo.

[trappnman]

2nd photo shows up just fine- but in the original post, its still a red X

yes, I had had this happen as well- but is it indicative of a certain situation, or a consistent and constant behavior?

When I was in my exclusive flat set stage, I started by leaving small wobble holes open, visible. As I tinkered with the sets over time, I started, on a whim more than anything, to either making the wobble holes into grass, etc thus rendering them almost invisible or putting grass into them, or a small cow chip over, or some such, so that they weren't obvious holes.

as as this was happening I started getting a noticeable increase in digging, working sets from side etc. Talking to Wiley, he said if a coyote cannot see the source of an odor, his instincts kick in (inherent natures) and he works the set differently.

In your pic, I cannot see any indication visibly of a hole, or (to a coyote) the source of the odors. I think that does make a difference

It also makes a difference on how long the set has been out, and how many coyotes have been seen by others in the set. Last year, I had 2 locations where I had taken 7 in 6 days, and we got a skiff of snow as we were pulling, and I could see tracks at both indicating at least one coyote still there. So were on my way to my waterlines, so I left them in for another week, and we had about as much snow as shown.

I tried a new set, I tried really roughing up old sets, I tried a few odd approaches as were suggested to me- and in that week- I had nothing but a badger. tracks daily like shown at remakes- fresh sets ignored.

now, if catching those coyotes was of prime importance, the solution would be to move entirely, to another portion of their territory- the present spot, although still being visited, was burned out.

Seldom, I'm not sure how far of an extension you intended your posts to have-

but my opinion is, that circling sets (new or remakes), is not consistent nor constant. sure, they tend to have certain traits in working sets, angles etc

I think circling is more apt to occur at novel situations- or in my layman terms anything and/or place that makes him spooky.

you say 4 out of 5 catch circles- is this snow? or are you meaning sets made all year round?

Because I don't see it, and while on bare ground one doesn't see the obvious as well in snow- the fact that over the years I've tested fresh sets vs remakes on & off, never seeing much value, but never making it a serious test.

This past year we did- we always put in a fresh set at any location that had coyotes in all traps- and the % of new catches in those fresh sets, vs the remakes wasn't enough to matter a bit- consistently we caught additional coyotes in the remakes, not
the fresh sets- BUT we were in out and quick.

the research I posted concludes that coyote sets made with lures, are not treated as novel objects by coyotes, whether in core or edge range

[seldom]

Now I've also got no photo in the original post!!!!

"Seldom, I'm not sure how far of an extension you intended your posts to have- "

I wasn't looking to induce any further discussion since it's plowed ground. There had been a previous discussion on catch circles and I had stated that in my experience the vast majority of coyotes won't come into the catch circle. In fact, this year I actually played with smoothed-out and left rough catch circles just to see how much difference there was in avoidance. There wasn't any difference! They didn't like either!

What is being depicted in the photo of the catch circle is that there isn't nor ever was any scents placed there by me. The only scent in that catch circle was placed there by the caught coyote. Also, it was a vivid photo of the reaction of the two coyotes bout 30'-40' before they hit the crow's foot in the trail and the subsequent catching of one of them.