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Post by thrstyunderwater on Dec 10, 2012 23:16:49 GMT -6
I'm using Senneker kill springs with snare shop break away devices. I don't see any reason why I can't reuse a break away device as long as it dispatched a fox, yote, etc and looks fine.
Anyone disagree? If you do, do you have any stories to solidify your argument?
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Post by RonMarsh on Dec 11, 2012 6:33:29 GMT -6
After working with wire products I find that each time a wire type (S hook) is opened and closed it becomes weaker.
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Post by thrstyunderwater on Dec 11, 2012 7:11:10 GMT -6
These aren't bent, they're cut off the animals in the same shape they went on.
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Post by trappnman on Dec 11, 2012 8:10:28 GMT -6
wouldn;t you have to reopen it to put on a new snarelock?
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Post by thrstyunderwater on Dec 11, 2012 8:35:29 GMT -6
wouldn;t you have to reopen it to put on a new snarelock? No, just put the cable end through the lock, then the break away loop. [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_so7B8lEwg [/youtube] It's towards the end if you don't want to see the whole thing.
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Post by trappnman on Dec 11, 2012 8:43:50 GMT -6
Marty puts his through the lock
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strow
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Post by strow on Dec 11, 2012 15:39:46 GMT -6
Thrstyunderwater, you only mentioned reusing the BAD and I assuume what you meant was to reuse the BAD and lock it is crimped onto as a complete unit.
The Lightning Lock has VERY hard teeth and kills quick. If the teeth get 'dished out' I would scrap the lock and BAD combo. If the teeth are sharp and good to go and the BAD has NOT been re-re-re-opened that I would rebuild another snare around it.
Hope I'm not reading into this to much and my input helped.
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Dec 17, 2012 19:11:34 GMT -6
YOur fine to reuse over and over again as long as the BAD isn't opened any at all. As stated just run your new cable through the eye and make another killer snare.
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Post by coyotewhisperer on Dec 17, 2012 19:48:05 GMT -6
I re use them all the time, no issues.
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Post by trappnman on Dec 18, 2012 7:27:36 GMT -6
I'm not a snare man- but ask this- why does Marty, who is a snareguy and a good snare guy- put his BADS on the lock and it seems the rest of you do not? Obviously its not hurting his catch, and he must have a reason for it
if you put them on the lock, you would have to reopen them to reuse-
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Post by coyotewhisperer on Dec 18, 2012 12:27:35 GMT -6
My BADS are the S type and yes they are on the lock. You re use the lock and do not need to take it off to make a new snare. Am i confused in what you are saying steve?
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maule
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Post by maule on Dec 18, 2012 13:12:00 GMT -6
Would someone please post of picture of your snare lock/BAD set up.
Killer spring setup as well?
thanks,
Maule
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Post by trappnman on Dec 18, 2012 14:14:35 GMT -6
no, Jeff- I was confusing myself- LOL
I was under the impression the BADS were being reopened-
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Dec 18, 2012 18:12:43 GMT -6
NO need to reopen a BAD, the s hook type attach to the hole in a cam lock where you would normally puit the cable, so with the s hook on there you cut the cable off and reuse the lock and bad as one complete unit. The kill spring rest against the bad and the end of your cable.
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Post by TrapperRon on Dec 19, 2012 18:05:00 GMT -6
My BADs are directly on the locks. They are silver soldered on my wolf snares as there is no chance of catching a deer or moose where I set. The lock with BAD attached, kill spring, swivel, whammy, and last 6 feet of cable past the swivel are all reuseable. I only use a swivel as a means of attaching a 3/32 cable to my 5/64 cable. A swivel lasts less than 30 seconds before snare tangling after which it is no longer inline to act as a swivel. Just finished making up a bunch of wolf snares I will go out and take a picture. BADS attached to toothed cam locks can be used over and over Eleven foot Wolf Snare with toothed cam lock, BAD, and Kill Spring with trigger. Kill Spring set up. Some snares made today and ready for boiling tomorrow. 72 lynx snares and 54 wolf snares. (some made and boiled previously). 11 gauge support wires for wolf snares are cut and coiled ready for boiling also. Wolf snares get bagged 6 to a bag with 6 support wires. Lynx snared 12 per bag.
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maule
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Post by maule on Dec 20, 2012 10:05:42 GMT -6
TrapperRon,
Thank you very much for the detailed pictures, very informative and helpful.
Is the 5/64 cable on the wolf snares 1/19 ? What size tube do you use for the wammy?
Also, once you have boiled your snares, do you handle them at all with bare hands or is it a given that it will hurt the wolf catch?
Thanks, again
Maule
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Post by TrapperRon on Dec 20, 2012 10:15:58 GMT -6
The 5/64 is 1 x 19 wire. I never worry about handling the snares, just make sure my hands are clean. When setting coyote or wolf snares I do not handle any other bait or scent at the time. The human scent is probably gone in two days from the set snares.
It has been quite a few years since I have caught wolves. We only got a season in our Region this year.
After three days of trapping my wife claims that I do not have any human scent in any cased.
I plan on doing a tutorial on exactly how to make these snares. They are great for coyotes as well.
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Post by musher on Dec 20, 2012 18:09:07 GMT -6
maule: Please post your location in your profile.
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Post by Stef on Dec 21, 2012 9:55:39 GMT -6
I re-use them all the time. They are on my cams so... Never thought about that. When they are open after a catch... they are stretched like a #9 figure (deer foot catch). I don't re-use those ones.
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