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Post by mustelameister on Sept 1, 2012 4:41:46 GMT -6
$15 average, straight through. Why not? The Big Muddy ain't holding many 'rats. Marshes down here are puddles to dry in many places. Those holding 'rats are gonna have Cox's Army opening day to deal with. Have no clue on the conditions in the Dakotas. Might be best to hang onto every 'rat for awhile. Would make things interesting though, if this critter sold for a twenty dollar bill down the road, eh?
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Post by thorsmightyhammer on Sept 1, 2012 7:55:10 GMT -6
I'm with wissmiss on this one
I believe if we dont produce enough rats it may very well have a negative effect.
It's drying up all over.
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Post by mustelameister on Sept 1, 2012 14:41:09 GMT -6
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Post by RdFx on Sept 2, 2012 7:11:17 GMT -6
Supply and demand, possibly high prices but when we cant supply the demand the industry will go to something else to replace it. Talked to a friend from Wausau (Harry) forgot buckskin name that bought a hoop from you for bvr i got him.... Now to actually get him to set a trap! But then again those buckskinners that dont trap give you and me business!!!!!!!!
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Post by trappnman on Sept 2, 2012 8:04:51 GMT -6
I'd be more than happy with a $6 rat year in and year out
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Post by lumberjack on Sept 2, 2012 14:42:22 GMT -6
I want to know why a $9.00 rat now with gas at near $4.00 is such a great thing but a $4.00 rat 15.00 yrs ago when gas was a buck was no big deal. Please keep in mind I dont live in the rat belt and its way worse for population here now.
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Post by thorsmightyhammer on Sept 2, 2012 17:06:32 GMT -6
I want to know why a $9.00 rat now with gas at near $4.00 is such a great thing but a $4.00 rat 15.00 yrs ago when gas was a buck was no big deal. Please keep in mind I dont live in the rat belt and its way worse for population here now. Who said some of us didnt go after rats hard in the mid nineties when they went up. I dont agree though I'd take a six dollar rat forever. Its all right but in five years in wont be all that great unless a guy can put up thousands. Yes, I mean thousands.
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Post by trappnman on Sept 2, 2012 18:19:46 GMT -6
I guess more what I meant steve, wsa to have a consistent rat- I just know rats are going to be $2.50 again before we know it- I'm not saying when, but every time rats look like they are going to take off "forever" its right back in the toilet again.
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Post by thorsmightyhammer on Sept 2, 2012 20:43:40 GMT -6
I'll enjoy it when they go to 2.50 again. Maybe I'll get to fish again lol.
I'll ride this wave as long as it lasts and its been a good ride.
09-10, 10-11, 11-12 seasons were a fantastic time to be a rat trapper. High prices mixed in with good rat populations in MN were fun. 08-09 was a non event for me on rats, price wise or number wise.
07-08 should have been a good year as I had set what was then a personal best for me on rats but I had to learn a marketing lesson the hard way that year lol. It still sticks with me today.
06-07 was a pretty good year to be a rat trapper as well, my May average at NAFA was dang near 8 bucks and I had almost all the rats I had on that sale. Problem was I only caught about 300 that year. Most of them incidentals in beaver sets.
Seriously though when they go down I'll still hit them but I'm not gonna sell them. Maybe not as hard as I do now but any of the great spots will get hit. Those that are only profitable in times of good prices will get passed up. Probably no traveling either although one never knows.
Personally I like 8 bucks. Seven has been my hammer price the last three years. I'd sell for less but I will wait it out unless some sign from the gods tells me otherwise. Six is about as low as I'd sell, maybe 5 but probably no even then eventually my stubborness sets in and I say effem.
My last sale this year I averaged over 11 and I almost thought that was getting a little high if those type levels would have stuck around until fall.
Might have to restock the 330 shelf some again for this winter as I have a feeling I may be running a winter line again for beaver . Its been awhile.
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Post by lumberjack on Sept 3, 2012 5:16:28 GMT -6
I didnt say us died in the wool trappers didnt go after them in the nineties, I just dont see a big money difference in trapping them now, unless you run a foot line, compared to then, and there was more back then, at least in my area. Just thank your lucky stars you have them..
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Post by blackhammer on Sept 3, 2012 7:57:18 GMT -6
I guess more what I meant steve, wsa to have a consistent rat- I just know rats are going to be $2.50 again before we know it- I'm not saying when, but every time rats look like they are going to take off "forever" its right back in the toilet again. I been hearing about those 2.50 rats for five years now. :)I believe they will be in the six to seven dollar range this year. A short catch means a little more probably but not as much as most think. With the cost of gas not to mention everyday living our fur prices are a seasonal ok wage. Maybe if your in the top five percent or so of big number guys a little better that. But all these yahoos running around at conventions with boxes of traps they bought will be in for a rude awakening. But it's good for dealers and a dieing sport to see the interest.
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Post by mustelameister on Sept 3, 2012 8:32:34 GMT -6
. . . and a dieing sport . . . not in this state
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Post by packerfan on Sept 3, 2012 19:22:34 GMT -6
What Mike said.
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Post by bblwi on Sept 3, 2012 21:25:49 GMT -6
50 rats at $20 is $1,000 100 rats at $10 is $1,000 142 rats at $7 is $1,000 200 rats at $5 is $1,000 400 rats at $2.50 is a 1000 700 rats at $1.45 is a 1,000
I have had all the prices below except the $20. Will have to wade the river shortly 5 of my 7 sloughs are dry. Last year they were about half of my 230 rats.
Bryce
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Post by thorsmightyhammer on Sept 4, 2012 20:45:39 GMT -6
I dont think you'd want to wade the river by my house bryce.
I think if the rice paddies to the east of me turn on the pumps this fall to fill them up the river will flow backwards lol.
Naw it wont. It aint flowing either direction right now. I've never seen it this dry at home. Dad said he has but I dont think I have.
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Sept 5, 2012 5:01:40 GMT -6
dry, dry down this way until this labor day weekend we received 9" from Last Friday through tuesday!
No more dried up river beds.
Thanks Issac!!!!!!
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Post by mtcbrlatrap on Sept 5, 2012 13:08:05 GMT -6
Issac is more if an I miss here. We have got about .2 of an inch the last 3 days. Have not had any rainfall here which was .7 inches on about the 18-20th of August.
Bryce
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Post by northof50 on Sept 5, 2012 18:03:18 GMT -6
The only water in the Red River is what is coming from Devil Lake diversion and backing up from the Saskatchewan water coming down the Assinibione. Today I saw a cow at Landcaster Minn go in for a drink in a farm dug out and 4 cows ran over and licked the remaining water off it's feet. That's how dry Iam seeing it here.
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Post by trappnman on Sept 6, 2012 7:00:21 GMT -6
farmers here are lucky, lucky, lucky- as one told me, this year, we are living in the garden spot of the midwest- enough rain at the righ't time- very early harvest- some beans will be going any day, and corn chopping is starting to rev up more every day
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Post by mtcbrlatrap on Sept 6, 2012 7:56:04 GMT -6
We are blessed too as far as crops but water levels are low. We will have some 200 plus bushel corn in our county which is rare for us. Beans are about 50% turned with few leaves off. Corn silage will start this week. Fifth cutting of hay coming off this week with better yields then 1st or 2nd. There won't be much corn left here when coon season opens as we take so much for silage and HMSC will be off by then also. We have about 60,000 acres of our 135,000 crop acres that gets from 9-16,000 gallons of liquid dairy manure and that stops the use of those fields by most species other than turkeys and gulls.
Bryce
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