skinning beaver

[thorsmightyhammer]

no, its another debate about being against something, without ever trying it.


You try any of those pinch pans yet??

No such thing as 5 seconds to do anything. LOL

My stud dog math tells me it takes longer than that to get an erection. Maybe I'm getting older.

Its not the time its the weight plus you have to take the dam thing down.

Another 5 seconds.

What is it 5 or 10 minutes to skin a beav.

I know how long it takes me on a 15 to 20 a day avg.

[Possum]

I'm with the guys who skin the belly side, then transfer to a gambrel to skin out the back. Not much lifting since my gambrel is hanging on my skinning hoist. I just crank out enough cable to get the loop to the beav and crank it to a comfortable height. Skin down about halfway on the back and crank it up a bit higher.
Trapping is my recreation. If I had to skin 100 beavers in a day (even 100 muskrats on a regular basis) I'd go get a real job somewhere.

[thebeav2]

I tried the hanging beaver thing a few times . I was sure I could use my vertical power skinner to make the job easier. But It wasn't the case It was more fooling around hooking It up and hanging It then It was doing It the way I had been doing It for 20 years.

It's hard to Improve on perfection.

[trappnman]

erection problems are yours to deal with..........

and "now you have to take it down"? yup- you do- swing it back to table, take off loop, and there ya go.

as far as lifting it, its simply not that big of factor- hes already on the table. the belly, and the sides, are skun so that all four legs are free, and the pelt is far enough down the sides to where one would normally pick up the beaver, and flip it. picking it up to hang it, doesn't take any more real effort- at least not for me, where the gambril swings to the table.

glad you brought up pinch pans- note I never said they didn't work, just said I saw no reason to change out to them. FOR ME. aka beav on the skinning- what I said I didn't like, was what I thought were pinch pans, until Calvin corrected me, the sleepy creek type of pan

but if I said gee, don't use them cause it takes too much time to put on, to set, to look at, to talk about, to adjust- then I'd not have any validity, cause I don't use them.

If you tried hanging them, and didn't like doing so- fine.

different strokes

but I cannot relate to more time and effort, because I find that not to be the case- time isn't an issue- thnaks for saying that- and for me, the lifting isn't anymore difficult then picking up one to flip.

I just have a hard time accepting time and effort in hanging it, as reasons why. Because both are equal in my mind.

to me, it just comes down to that, for me, its so much easier skinning the back hanging, than laying on a table. Just a different method.

[RdFx]

Yup, and remember only SHAKE once after pissing as it takes an extra second! Which will be used up picking up skinning knife that you just dropped when skinning bvr caused by carpal tunnel.....!!!! which i will gain back as i just had carpal tunnel surgery...... by the way ever try buttoning trousers with your left nondominant hand among other things...LOL

[thorsmightyhammer]

i dont shake at all.

Like to let it dribble down my leg. Gives me a warm feeling on a cold long winter day.

Let me know how that surgery works out for ya lee.

I'm gonna need it soon or quit using a chisel for good.

Fricking hand like to go to sleep about every five minutes.

[Possum]

I don't skin the front legs out while the beav is on the table, just the back legs. Once I get the back legs out, it goes on the gambrel, hanging by the tail, then it's just like skinning a coon, possum or coyote. I'm getting old enough to often get that warm feeling on a cold day, even if I do shake it! I'm not even going to comment about hanging up my chisel for good. (But I've never heard it called a chisel before. Must be a Minnesota thing.)

[trappnman]

steven, there are exericses that help, and evenb "cure" carpal tunnel syndrome

search.yahoo.com/search;_ylt=A0oG7nT_USVPH18A1mRXNyoA?ei=UTF-8&fr=chr-yie8&p=carpal+tunnel+exercises&SpellState=&fr2=sp-qrw-corr-top

I do hand stretching exercises, and i went from having my hands tingle so much I couldn't even put pins into mink, or carry a bucket handle, and even driving my hands woud tingle and hurt. Now, I seldom have symptoms.

[thorsmightyhammer]

Odd part is the only time my hands bother me is when I am using the chisel alot

I quit rat or beaver trapping and in 2 to 5 days its gone.

[trappnman]

try throughout the day, taking a small break, and just flex and stretch your hands- CT comes from a tightening of the tendons, and allowing them to relax and get back to "normal" really helps. spreading the thumb and fingers and holding them extended, stretches the tendons

[timb]

I'm not a huge beaver guy, 40-50 a year. For me it's easier to do the hanging thing, first I loop off the legs, ring the tail, cut up the belly 4", skin out the back legs, hang on my electric skinner and case skin the rest of way. The skinner isn't used to pull the hide just keep it at a nice working hight. Like I said I don't do the numbers some of you do but it makes it easier for me to flesh them on my regular beam. My two cents, maybe I'm doing it wrong?

[jim]

as far as lifting it, its simply not that big of factor- hes already on the table. the belly, and the sides, are skun so that all four legs are free, and the pelt is far enough down the sides to where one would normally pick up the beaver, and flip it. [/quote]

A normal guy wouldn't pick it up you just roll it onto its belly, whats with this flipping it?

Jim

[jim]

Jan 29, 2012 8:26:52 GMT -6 thorsmightyhammer said:

Odd part is the only time my hands bother me is when I am using the chisel alot

I quit rat or beaver trapping and in 2 to 5 days its gone.

It may help if you make the handle where you hold it a bigger diameter.

Jim

[trappnman]

flip it, roll it, whatever- stills adds up to minimal time gained vs swinging gambril to table and hanging, and to ME, that time, if any, is more than made up in hangng.

I'm certainly not trying to convince anyone to change how they do things- just stating a method thati s easier FOR ME- that perhaps those that don't have skining beaver down to perfection might want to try.

why does it always have to be a debate about right or wrong? isn't it a debate about preference?

[thebeav2]

I see no where In this thread where anyone said your method was WRONG.

I just related to how MY system worked for me. And I figured my system has gone through a lot of beaver. For the last 15 years 1 have averaged 300 to 400 beaver each season doing It the way I do It. And most of you know that I like to tweak things and think out of the box. Well this Is the system I have come up with and It works for me.

So Do It how ever you want It makes no difference to me.

[trappnman]

thinking outside the box, usually means trying things that are not generally accepted as the "correct" method, or having ideas that don't fall into what the "expected" catagory.

a thinker outside the box, would come up with a new and improved way of doing things- not the same old

I don't see that with you at all on these threads, in fact just the opposite...... one that is satisfied with his way, and no others.

Not a fault, Im that way myself in many things- but I don't catagorize it as "thinking outside the box". I catagorize it as being IN the box................

A thinker outside the box, would say- "never did it much (or at all), I'll give it a try for a while, see if it fits me".

my point that I must be wrong, stems from Jim taking me to task for not being "normal", and rolling the beaver over-

roll it, flip it, whatever..............

I used to grab the tail and flip it- the reason I don't cut tails off first as some do- I like the "handle".

doesn't matter in any way- my point was, it takes no more time to put a loop on the tail, and hang it than to flip it or roll it or do whatever with it..

[jim]

Your words Steve you said PICK IT UP and flip it.


Jim

[thebeav2]

I have a method that Is been derived from many hours In the fur shed doing beaver.
I learned many little tricks along the way. I also have used many different tools and knives to make this job a lot simpler. The sum result Is the method I use.

[trappnman]

ah Jim, now I get you- I misunderstood your psot-

no, I don't pick them up per se, I grab them by the tail and on big ones the teeth, and flip/roll them over. sorry.