Anyone else baiting it up?

[trappincoyotes39]

which way was the wind blowing? Then notice the contrast of the carcass agianst the snow, your set had zero contrast covered in snow. The contrast plus the smell of the carcass added to the appeal of the coon carcass. Add some contrast to your set and watch what happens in the snow. Could be a backing, could be dry/waxed dirt etc, but contrast will bring them in for sure!!!!!

Large baits in snow and cold are great!!!! Add some contrast or hang snares on travel ways to the bait locations killer deals come winter. Even Love sick coyotes need to eat!!!!

[trappincoyotes39]

This is the time of the year I would snare heavy on draw stations and really hammer those coyotes. Dec 15th thru Feb made for some great times on a snare line dedicated with large bait stations. Congragation sure to take place when on those key travel ways and the large baits are the stall outs. I would catch them to and from such areas.

I could put the bait in the open but why? I put it where the advantage is in my favor for snaring!!!!! No different than trapping use the wind and the terrain and pull them where you NEED them to be for efficant capture.

[Nick C]

TC, the fenceline runs East/West. With the CRP draw being towards the East. And we obviously have a predominant NW Wind.

Nobody else is baiting it up? You guys are missing the boat!!!

[thorsmightyhammer]

There is more snow in that field than there is in my whole county nick.

I got a pretty good rat carcass pile going on my buddies land. Baiting up the yotes so we can shoot em later.

Hasnt been hit yet. Started it about 2 weeks ago.

[musher]

Bait piles and snares are probably the number one way of trapping in Quebec.

Not everyone uses large baits. Many bury a bucket of bait in early fall/late summer. They leave a piece of 2x4 sticking out of the hole. Come trapping season the yank the 2x4. Thesemi rotten bait is frozen in the ground and the odour escapes by the 2x4 hole.

In fields, such as the ones pictured, they also lay false trails with the atv/snow mobile. These false trails lead away from the baits and into the brush. The trails are then set with snares.

[ksboy2]

nick,
if you call setting on the downwind side of the feedlot then yes... or the same with the farmers dead pile...

[trappnman]

Any coyote trapper that's trapped enough to consider himself a coyote trapper, has made the connection of dead piles, and cows in general. Even in my country, where predation of calves is almost non existent, they still like being around and with cows.

Like many here, I have been trapping such locations for years.

I have thought a lot about "BAITING THEM UP", and in thinking about what 1080 has said, have come to a couple of working theories if not conclusions.................

First of all, I'll point out a subtle point hes made in several videos, and that's when he means pre baiting, hes talking about, really, year round baiting. That's what makes stockyards and dead (compost piles in many cases) piles so good- they are a year round draw.

how much does on the line baiting help? Depends in my opinion.

I had three locations this year where I took 7 coyotes in 5-10 days.

One of them was 2nd year at that location. big dairy, sawdust pile behind barns, fields running along a field road that goes into a couple of waterways, then into coulees.

Last year, set 6 days, had zero action. But the farmer said hes been hearing coyotes- so drove back to same setup area and found a full grown cow, that had been put into a plowed field maybe 4-5 days before about 75 yards from the set up location.

last year, had no coyotes there- or at least not enough to catch any. As someone told me, I was set up to catch them if they came there- but last year, they didn't.

but this year- with that cow- those waterways were now the main access route, and I had a double, a double, then 3 singletons in 6 days. left them a few more, and nothing. in the middle, added fresh sets- 5 of 7 caught in 1 set, only the doubles had one in another.

the second 7 location, was one with no draws, except what was there- a plateau farm, with 1 field road running into a wide waterway, into a dead pond, into a coulee- all high grass, almost set aside.Where the field road met the waterway, and the grass was short, I caught in 10 days 7 coyotes and a fox- 6 coyotes and a fox in 1 set, the last coyote in the last- never a double, but consistent day after day.

the third, was a good spot from previous years, not a lot of cows around, but deep coulees and a fine intersection of field roads where I take 2-3 each year. first 3 days, got 3 singletons and left 3 carcasses there. then nothing, then last 2 days 2 doubles.

So three different situations- one baited with a "ton" of cow, the other with coyote carcasses, the third with nothing.

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But all three had one thing in common, and if I took anything away from 1080s videos, I took away this-

that to catch the most coyotes in the shortest time, you need to set where you are going to have most coyotes in a mood to do more than give your sets a token response.

western trappers use the term stall out areas- and I've come to think of that in even more simple terms- we call it "comfort zone" and ask ourselves this question, and try to answer it the best you can.......

Where, would a coyote coming by this location, be the most comfortable and feel the safest?

And that's where we try to setup. sometimes right on the money, sometimes not. We had several locations we thought we were right on the money at last year, to little or no avail- and this year tweaked those locations by often only 20-50 feet- and it made a big difference.

So I don't think, that baiting up so to speak, is complete, unless you figure out where to set those traps vis a vis that bait. And I also think that the type of bait, is going to be a major factor in its overall, meaning multiple coyotes, success.

I could do more, for sure, but I'm getting to the point where farmers save calves for me out of the compost, to put where I want them. Bless them! Even had one guy, where I trapped last year and got 7- the frosty morning videos for those that have seen ours- and this year, he said sure you can trap, but the dead pile is gone- and sure enough where it was was now plowed corn.

but set anyhoo- 2 checks nothing, and when I came into the yard, he waved me down and said they had a calf with a broken leg, and if I wanted to shoot it, they would drag it to where I wanted- sure thing- got 6 there in last 5 checks.

my thoughts anyways..................

[ksboy2]

highest spot in a huge open field....

single patch of grass in a huge open field

i am learning these fast out here in the grass and wheat

[ksboy2]

from one of the hardest working trappers i have ever been priviledged enough to ride with:

[RdFx]

bingo....can put out carcasses like that here in WI.. Yotes wont touch them.... they dry up .... but you can catch yotes around them.... Now small calves are another story, they munch them right up and drag away aways the bones and head....

[ksboy2]

used to try to catch critters off dead cows/calves when i was a kid and did not know what i was doing...
learned that when we gave calves a shot of LA 200 coyotes wouldn't touch them after they died...

[trappnman]

sometimes I find that to be true as well- a calf sits there untouched week after week , and this is in winter- and you can see coyotes are coming close, but have zero interest. I could only assume, it was some type of medication that was putting them off.

[trappincoyotes39]

When I move in large baits I leave them sit awhile before I go about setting them up. I like things to mellow and nature to take it's course, it all adds to your offering specially when working coyotes that don;'t like human interaction. Seems once they start hitting the locations and you keep adding bait the mellow period gets shorter durring harsh weather.

[thebeav2]

I have several bait station set up and have been adding deer carcasses and beaver carcases and so far nothing has hit It. But that Is the norm around here, coyotes just don't seem to work these baits till the snow flies and things get tough. Normally that occurs around the month of January. But My CRs are set but just not opened up yet. I'll open them up during the first heavy snow fall.

[trappincoyotes39]

Natural baits are worked better than trimmings and the such for sure.

[foxman]

Question!! i have 3 carcass piles, one has 6 skunks, gland and all in the pile. The coons other coyotes and the 2 deer are not touched..but i have found 3 skunks dragged off with the hind ends eaten out. This was before all our snow hit and i have caught coyotes in the area so i assuming yotes..BUT why the interest in the skunks?? over good ole deer scraps? shoot i even had a few possums get eaten.

[fishdaddy]

a dead deer dont last long here.befor the coyotes eat it

[ksboy2]

could be cats foxman... they will eat a skunk...

[foxman]

cats as in feral cats or bobcats? Either way it had me pretty darn puzzled. The bait pile is working now, caught 3 coyotes a number of skunks and possums off of it and one badger. I still wanna know what ate the skunks, i otta take pics..but that means i gotta dig through the snow! lol

[rionueces]

The carcass pile that I work has a large amount and variety of animals. Deer, wild hogs, quail, duck and exotics like eland, gemsbok etc. Mix that in with a couple of hundred buzzards and caracaras and you have one big stinking mess since the temps will get up into the 80's on a warm winter day. I have better success working the trails or high mounds around 50 to 100 yards away. There is too much stench up close. The meek little females are the first ones to get caught. Sweet or unusual smelling lures seem to work better for me at this location.