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Post by trapperfred on Sept 20, 2011 15:07:07 GMT -6
I was at the MTA that is Missouri and They wanted to ask the MDC if Missouri could be, or go to being a reciprocal state
I was just wanting to know what states are reciprocal now. For I have no idea what state are.
Fred
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Post by thebeav2 on Sept 20, 2011 16:11:56 GMT -6
I believe that Mn Is the only state that's not reciprocal. And SD Is so restrictive a non resident can't trap there.
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Post by FWS on Sept 20, 2011 17:47:24 GMT -6
Be interesting to see the language from each state as it pertains to nonresident trapping, if you have a fast internet connection you should be able to download the regs and copy the section on NR trapping, licenses, fees and reciprocal language, if any.
From the CA Fish & Game Code, $513 NR license
ยง4006. Issuance of license;
A license shall not be issued to a nonresident if the state in which he or she resides does not provide for issuance of a nonresident trapping license to California residents. Also, a nonresident issued a license under this subdivision may take only those species, and may take or possess only that quantity of a species which a resident of California may take or possess under a nonresident trapping license or permit in the state of residence of that nonresident.
From the Idaho DFG, $301 NR license,
Attention Nonresident Trappers: Nonresident Idaho
trapping license allows you to trap only those species that your
home resident state allows nonresidents to trap and that there
is an open season for those species in Idaho.Quotas apply.For
states with multiple quotas,the most restrictive trapping quota
will apply in Idaho.Nonresidents are advised to review their
home states nonresident trapping rules.
Utah doesn't appear to have any NR restrictions or reciprocity in licensing, $154 NR license, but a 3 cat per license limit if this years regs are the same as last years.
AZ doesn't appear to have restrictions on NR's either and no reciprocal license requirements. $275 NR license.
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Post by robertw on Sept 20, 2011 18:45:47 GMT -6
North Dakota and Wyoming are both reciprical.
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Post by kelly on Sept 20, 2011 19:37:44 GMT -6
Iowa is, too. They allow NR from reciprocal states with the same rules/seasons as residents. Absolutely no special rules/seasons just for NR.
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Post by trapperfred on Sept 21, 2011 5:47:44 GMT -6
Thanks guys
Missouri allow NR with the same as residents, and the season is the same.
I would say that it is the same as PA
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Post by trappnman on Sept 21, 2011 8:59:21 GMT -6
there are a lot of states that are not reciprocal-
just look at any state, that allows MN residents to trap
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Post by crichards on Sept 21, 2011 12:02:17 GMT -6
I was at the MTA that is Missouri and They wanted to ask the MDC if Missouri could be, or go to being a reciprocal state I was just wanting to know what states are reciprocal now. For I have no idea what state are. Fred If another state does not allow non-res to trap there, then they are not allowed to trap other states.......and if they do allow non res but put severe restrictions on them....that is not recriprocal in my opinion.....but just them trying to meet recriprocal agenda that will allow them to squeak by and trap out of state...........Hopefully Missouri will give this considerable thought and pass it |
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Post by fishdaddy on Sept 21, 2011 14:38:49 GMT -6
in my state we have a 3 bobcat limit does this mean if i went there that i could only take 3?
Attention Nonresident Trappers: Nonresident Idaho
trapping license allows you to trap only those species that your
home resident state allows nonresidents to trap and that there
is an open season for those species in Idaho.Quotas apply.For
states with multiple quotas,the most restrictive trapping quota
will apply in Idaho.Nonresidents are advised to review their
home states nonresident trapping rules.
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Post by FWS on Sept 21, 2011 16:40:30 GMT -6
Yup. Provided that West Virginny allows NR's to take cats, if they don't you can not take cats in ID.
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Post by motrapperjohn on Sept 21, 2011 17:04:07 GMT -6
Whats good for the goose is good for the gander
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Sept 21, 2011 18:09:45 GMT -6
talk about a nightmare for the CO's good grief........ Those ID co's would have a heck of a time keeping track of all the others states rules and regs to check a guy there. Common sense sometimes eludes states when it comes to such, they could easyily change their rules for non residents and make life easier for sure.
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Post by FWS on Sept 21, 2011 18:59:53 GMT -6
More like a Christmas present for a game warden.  Extra restrictions they can check for compliance of and whip out the citation book (or handcuffs) if an a violation is found. C'mon, they love writing tickets.  As per the license, it's pretty easy to check the NR's home state regs. online to determine reciprocity. NR trapping licenses all seem to be issued from the licensing division at the headquarters in the Western states. A written exam may be required before issuance too. OR, CA, WA all required that for first time licensees. |
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Sept 21, 2011 19:07:50 GMT -6
not so much in the real world. Many are so over tasked with other duties and also the fact if they write a citation they want them to be upheld in court and to have to jump through all those hoops to check compliance from 3 guys from 3 different states is alot of time spent for sure.
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Post by fishdaddy on Sept 21, 2011 20:00:53 GMT -6
all non residents can trap here if we can trap their state.
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Post by robertw on Sept 21, 2011 20:31:01 GMT -6
The wardens don't have to check on all of this in reguards to the bobcats, this is done at the state office (some times a year later) after the bobcats and otter are tagged or submitted to being tagged.
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Post by FWS on Sept 21, 2011 21:00:01 GMT -6
I'm not so sure about that, I've been checked by wardens in several states and by Federal wardens as well. Hunting, trapping, commercial and sport fishing, commercial mushroom picking, etc. Never got a violation but I've seen a whole lot get issued. Texans seemed to be a favorite target in CO during deer/elk season on public lands. RW, in most states you have to bring in the pelts to be tagged, but it seems there are states that issue tags in advance. KY had the option of buying otter and bobcat tags in advance. I'm not sure if those are actual CITES export tags or a state tag that stays on till a CITES tag is affixed by agency personnel. Anybody know ? |
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Post by fishdaddy on Sept 21, 2011 21:12:47 GMT -6
RW, in most states you have to bring in the pelts to be tagged, but it seems there are states that issue tags in advance. KY had the option of buying otter and bobcat tags in advance.
you dont have to buy those tags.they are free your allowed 6 otter in ky and 5 cats you tag them when you catch them.
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Post by robertw on Sept 21, 2011 21:51:02 GMT -6
I was referring to a trapper tagging more pelts thsan he was allowed to by the reciprosity agreement per the regulations in their home state and it not being the agents job to know the regulations in state of residence.
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Post by trappincoyotes39 on Sept 22, 2011 4:36:19 GMT -6
robert not one size fits all. Many states do it different SD all tagging is done by local co's and state trappers now called WDM's.
Also a co in ID sees a guy with 3 cats how does the warden know he is going to get them tagged at a state office? He is going to do the work to make sure what he finds is a legal harvest or not. Most won't say, oh well the state office will take care of it. He could have had a poacher on his hands and no one possibly might never know. They will do their due diligance if they confront someone, meaning more work, when rules could be streamlined to make it easier.
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