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Post by thebeav2 on Mar 11, 2011 9:10:39 GMT -6
know what Lee once told me? "I love buying your coon" I asked him why- he said cause they don't stink! an intangible And then there Is the "OTHER REASON"  I haven't time to sit around here I have 16 beaver I fleshed this morning and I need to get them on the boards. Oh wait a minute I guess I should wash them let them hang for 3 days till there dry and then board them YA RIGHT. |
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Post by trappnman on Mar 11, 2011 9:23:54 GMT -6
beav- garmen whipped me on coyote average this year- he just had some real nice overall coyotes- I only wish I got higher prices for poor fur from Lee then others did with better fur - but thats not what is happening.
my advantage with Lee is this-
he gets most all my fur & he knows that- in a poor market when he cuts back buying, I still can sell my fur (aka the coon market crash, coyotes year in and year out). Loyalty pays on both sides.
he knows what he is getting as far as fur care, work up, etc- no surprises later.
and overall, I got good fur
but anyone that presents the same quality of fur, is going to get the same prices I do.
those that bring in a pile of stinky, muddy bloody coon, coyotes the same, are going to get less- as they should.
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Post by trappnman on Mar 11, 2011 9:34:47 GMT -6
I haven't time to sit around here I have 16 beaver I fleshed this morning and I need to get them on the boards. Oh wait a minute I guess I should wash them let them hang for 3 days till there dry and then board them YA RIGHT.
better take a break if this example is a comparison- no one is talking washing beaver or rats-
short hair fur vis a vis cleaning are 2 different things.
nor washing coon routinely.
lets see- it takes mushrats 5 minutes to dry for you- but hanging a wet fur takes 3 days? wow- get rid of that folding hand fan.................
just for the record, the few beaver I get I don't bother putting up- at at the last prices of $18 adult, $8 for a couple of kits average, I see no need to- but anyhoo- a skun beaver laid out in front of a fan on a board (what rube would hang them up LOL), dries in well under an hour.
why do I dry green beaver and coon? I can roll them up to freeze and when selling, don't have to set them out to thaw before selling- I can unroll a dry fur pretty easily out of the freezer, and sell semi frozen.
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Post by garman on Mar 11, 2011 9:44:00 GMT -6
t-man states:"beav- garmen whipped me on coyote average this year- he just had some real nice overall coyotes- I only wish I got higher prices for poor fur from Lee then others did with better fur - but thats not what is happening."
I also thought the put up was not my best either, but yes overall they were a good looking yote, every year around here they just keep getting better looking, lighter and silkier backs, whiter bellies. I do believe you get out of what you put in to them, to a certain extent, some of these guys I see on other sites go a bit overboard. I do not believe on the big auctions it makes a terrible difference.
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Post by trappnman on Mar 11, 2011 9:58:18 GMT -6
I didn't study them, just looked at a few of them, and thought the put up looked good, they did have nice bellies on them- I had a lot similar, but early is early on some of mine.......... I do remember thinking they were "big headed"- I wonder if your boards have a differ taper on top, or just big headed yotes?
it does take more time, but in my case, its two doing the work during the landline, and bigger days on water- bonding time!
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Post by 17HMR on Mar 11, 2011 10:30:00 GMT -6
I did a little experiment the last 2 years with coyote put up. I have not washed any for the last 2 years, only spot clean with borax where needed, and have found my % of heavys has improved by about 20%. Before this I washed each and every one...
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Post by garman on Mar 11, 2011 10:43:38 GMT -6
the big headed were because they are a much bigger brained smarter coyote down here steve. Actually some were on wire, and probably could use the nose area squeezed down a little.
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Post by trappnman on Mar 11, 2011 10:47:36 GMT -6
I think they were all wolves...........................
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Post by garman on Mar 11, 2011 10:57:40 GMT -6
I think they were all wolves........................... SSSSSSSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!  |
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Post by trappnman on Mar 11, 2011 11:01:56 GMT -6
I'll never tell..........
if you looking for more wood, try the "big coyote" ones Rally's dad sells. top notch quality, and LONG enough for the big ones, and not sure what the wood is, but not to hard, not too soft, but "just right" for putitng in, removing pins.
Lori loves them............LOL
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Post by thorsmightyhammer on Mar 11, 2011 12:59:27 GMT -6
16 beaver?
Not working past lunch today?
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Post by garman on Mar 11, 2011 13:00:20 GMT -6
16 beaver? Not working past lunch today? I had that done before breakfast.  |
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Post by trappnman on Mar 11, 2011 13:20:46 GMT -6
ah................. the Woodstock days...................
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Post by thorsmightyhammer on Mar 11, 2011 13:51:39 GMT -6
Gary can take a good ribbing because he knows what can be done in the shed.
I only fleshed 350 plus beaver this winter.
Timed myself pretty regular, it was 8 beaver fleshed per hour avg. pretty consistently unless the days work leaned to the big sizes or the smaller sizes.
So 4 4.5 hours on 16 beaver beaver isnt out of the question.
There are guys that are faster than me.
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Post by 17HMR on Mar 12, 2011 6:25:30 GMT -6
That used to amaze me on how fast some can do beaver, but I found you start getting faster with more #s behind you, Im up to about 2 1/2 to 3 and hour and still lots of room to improve. I can still remember the first one, swore off beaver for a while after that.....
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Post by michaelweese on Mar 12, 2011 20:02:14 GMT -6
That used to amaze me on how fast some can do beaver, but I found you start getting faster with more #s behind you, Im up to about 2 1/2 to 3 and hour and still lots of room to improve. I can still remember the first one, swore off beaver for a while after that..... That was me with coyotes, now i'm getting faster! |
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Post by Rally Hess on Mar 13, 2011 11:30:11 GMT -6
Those boards are made of Basswoood Steve. Wonderful for use with pushpins.
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Post by seldom on Mar 13, 2011 12:03:06 GMT -6
I did a little experiment the last 2 years with coyote put up. I have not washed any for the last 2 years, only spot clean with borax where needed, and have found my % of heavys has improved by about 20%. Before this I washed each and every one... I agree, I did the same sort of experiment and found the same results!! It bothered the devil out of me the first year I sent them in without washing but was nicely surprised when I saw my Lotting Letter posted! |
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Post by trappnman on Mar 13, 2011 12:35:59 GMT -6
while I believe your posts, I disagree wit your conclusions- I cannot agree that washing fur, is going to reduce or increase the % of heavy coyotes by 20%.
washing is not going to reduce fur density.
might make em weigh less..............LOL
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Post by thebeav2 on Mar 13, 2011 15:11:31 GMT -6
If you do more then a 100 of anything with PUSH PINS you will be a cripple In no time.
I even went to staples on my beaver this year. I'm starting to like It alot.
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